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Offline ravells

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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2004, 11:55:56 PM »
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If you think that then you are retarded. The man is a cheap liar who feeds his audiences exactly that which reeinforces their prejudices, tells them what they want to hear, want to belive, and most of all want to and desperately need to fear.


Actually he talks about people living in needless fear.

You should listen /watch more of his stuff, Grun. Even if you don't agree with it, it has a ring of truth.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2004, 11:59:36 PM »
I have seen all of his movies. They are very funny, but moreso very abusive, exploitative, meanspirited and untruthful...

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2004, 11:59:38 PM »
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Even if you don't agree with it, it has a ring of truth.

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As do all of the better lies.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2004, 12:00:08 AM »
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rogwar...you do realise that if you jack your own thread, Nash will give you a prize?

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I've flown with Nash many times in the past and would be glad to show him Rio anytime :)

I don't fly anymore though online. Maybe I'll start back when it becomes really fun again. Watching AHII develop at the moment.

Nash: I've got over a half million miles with American Airlines and you have an open ticket anytime. Don't want to be a bad influence though :cool:
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2004, 12:00:32 AM »
What has he lied about?

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2004, 12:01:06 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2004, 12:05:19 AM »
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What has he lied about?

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I know little about his most current work, however, I watched some of his Bowling drama and found it to be incredible, completely.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2004, 12:06:28 AM »
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What has he lied about?

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See Bowling for Culumbine. THe whole "documentary" is basically a lie.  For example remember the visit to the "nuclear missle" factory in Littleton colorado?  Well that place does no such thing. THey actually convert old cold war missle bodies to use as peaceful satelite launchers...  ut thats not good for Mr Moore's agenda.  No. They have to be building nuclear missles because he he thinks its a clever connection he can make with the Columbine school shootings. You see the parents build nuclear missles and the kids kill other kids. Cause and effect..

Except of course nobody builds nuclear missles there, they destroy them and turn them into peaceful satelite launchers like I said above...

So thats one of the many many outright lies..

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2004, 12:10:19 AM »
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rogwar


I should admit that I'm for the Villians...

I just felt like you ought to know. :aok

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2004, 12:10:26 AM »
mmmmmmmmmmmm.... I'll research that and get back to you, Gunz.

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2004, 12:15:59 AM »
rgr Rogwar, that is what I meant to say :)
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2004, 12:36:39 AM »
Best thing Micheal Moore ever did was Canadian Bacon. Now that was good.

His other stuff is well done. I liked "Roger and Me" but could sense his aim.

The other genera is more of the same, rather avant-garde.

In my opinion, he is nothing but some fat peter pumper, nonetheless quite intelligent, with a brilliant flare for producing market demand by creating contraversy.

Granted, if one wanted to display a subject really interesting, why not take a deep look into the whole Saudi Royal Family in a similar manner. Wonder if that might fly?

Do I like him or the films nowadays? No. Would I battle (kill people) to protect his right to make those films? Yes.

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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2004, 12:59:01 AM »
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Michael Moore is brilliant!

my 2 cents.

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That statement strikes me as........consistent.

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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2004, 01:00:33 AM »
Grun, regarding Clear Channel's FCC fine. Stern could have written a book or said on HBO any of those things he did say without any trouble from the FCC. There is a proper avenue for adult speech and it isn't broadcast radio or tv as determined by the American people.

Pornography, as many claim is Stern's speech, has been determined by Americans to be unsuitable for children. The public airways have been reserved for all ages.

Could Bardot have published her book in any arena in France without government censorship?
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2004, 01:00:41 AM »
Why thank you!

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