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Offline 1K3

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« on: July 11, 2004, 04:45:03 PM »
Why does USA support/protect Israel and its special interest? What do we have there that is so important to the U.S.?

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2004, 04:49:01 PM »
Maybe you should try to get some unbiased information on the matter before posting? These neo-nazi/pro-arab/anti-jewish brainwash campaigns get really old really fast.

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 04:51:43 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2004, 08:20:04 PM »
1.those that bless isreal shall be blessed
 2.we have always been for the under dog
 3. we were founded on judeo/christian principals
 4.as some americans do,isreal has a decent moral compass
 5.those that hate isreal dont want to just defeat her in battle,but wipe her out as a people as in no more jews alive anywhere,as long as americas moral compass is decent we wont let that happen,oil or no oil.
 6. isreal is greatfull and doesnt just pay lipservice to friendship .....so far

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2004, 08:26:56 PM »
Nah Capt. Pork... Innapropriate picture considering the post. Downrigger woulda been more like it.

But in answer to the post... I'm guessing a huge amount of Jewish voters has something to do with it.

But it's the right thing to do, imho.

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2004, 08:44:33 PM »
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I'm guessing a huge amount of Jewish voters has something to do with it.

How huge?  Let's see some numbers.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2004, 08:49:34 PM »
I don't have numbers.

But it's significant enough that neither side would want to piss them off by abandoning Israel.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2004, 08:51:53 PM by Nash »

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2004, 09:26:57 PM »
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I'm guessing a huge amount of Jewish voters has something to do with it.



Not votes as much as campaign contributions...  Jews are only some 2% of the population and even if all of them voted it wouldnt be such a huge issue. Plus something like 70-80% of Jews vote democratic anyway.  Votes may be a bigger factor this year though because there are so many Jews living in Florida.

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2004, 09:33:15 PM »
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But in answer to the post... I'm guessing a huge amount of Jewish voters has something to do with it.


Don't forget Christian Zionism.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2004, 09:35:42 PM »
heh... I don't even know what that stuff means.

I do know that the first president or presidential candidate who says "enough, we're out of Israel" better take up a new hobby.

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2004, 09:35:54 PM »
Yes ironically a lot of fundementalist christians have become very pro israel.

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2004, 09:38:54 PM »
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Nah Capt. Pork... Innapropriate picture considering the post. Downrigger woulda been more like it.
 


I just like the look on the guy's face as he casts... Very concentrated, very deliberate.

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2004, 09:41:36 PM »
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heh... I don't even know what that stuff means.


Basically... The rapture can't happen if the Jews aren't in Israel.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2004, 09:45:51 PM »
ahh the rapture!

okay... :D

This is just a bigger example to me of why the need for seperation of church and state.

I still don't get it, but one thing I do know is that some sort of rapture should have nothing to do with anything. :)

(I know you were kiddin')

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2004, 09:48:44 PM »
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(I know you were kiddin')


Sadly, I was not.
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