Speeding Ticket Question..

[MrLars]

Originally posted by SaburoS
LOL, so now the Cops are at fault for issuing tickets for speeding. I get it now, it's not the speeder's fault, it's the cop's

I wonder who's fault it would be if some innocent driver got killed or injured because someone thought that speed laws were only for those who drive during rush hour?

Time for this driver to think about how his actions can affect other drivers/cyclists/pedestrians.

[GreenCloud]

Trial by Written Declaration..try it..make up some good story...i have no wwon my last 2 out of 3 tickets,,

im doing a new trial for the 3rd one..they said no..I said.NEW TRIAL!!!!


atleast it keeps the tickect from htiing my insurance anytiem soon...

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by GreenCloud
Trial by Written Declaration..try it..make up some good story...i have no wwon my last 2 out of 3 tickets,,

im doing a new trial for the 3rd one..they said no..I said.NEW TRIAL!!!!


atleast it keeps the tickect from htiing my insurance anytiem soon...

Following the speedlimits is not an option?

[-MZ-]

Originally posted by BlckMgk
Does it change anything that I think I was clocked from the air?

-BM

If he was the one who saw you speed he will need to be present in court, not the cop who wrote out the ticket, unless he saw you speeding also.

If you don't have the opportunity to cross-examine the helicopter cop and he was the only one who recorded your speed, then you will win the case.

However, since you just said you only 'think' you were clocked from the air, then this probably will not work.

[BlckMgk]

Ticket says Pace Clocked....

[JAGED]

You say it was 2:00 am? That means he works the graveyard shift.  My last two tickets were issued by graveyard shift officers.  I went to court on both of them and neither one showed up.  Case dismissed.  

Want some tips on fighting tickets? Enter this on Google:

"moving radar" "defense strategies"

just like it's typed out above with quotes and all.  Hit the "I'm Feeling Lucky" Google button and you will have access to lots of intersting information...

[Vulcan]

Invest in a good radar detector and laser jammer. Saves me a lot.

Oh and before the soap-box-morales team chimes in I've been "incorrectly" clocked by laser at maximum range which is why I decided to defend myself from unreliable technology.

[BlckMgk]

Yeah was going to get an integrated valentine one with an indash display. Soon.. once I get back from vacation.

-BM

[Dux]

I heard once that a guy was pulled aside at a Mass Turnpike exit. The calculated times (as shown on his Turnpike ticket stub) between his getting on at Exit X and getting off at Exit Y meant that he had to have driven well over 100. They had him wait on the side until a trooper showed up to ticket him.

Not completely sure it's not a local urban legend.

[J_A_B]

Lidar/radar jammers are illegal almost everywhere.    Even basic detectors are illegal in some states.  When you're using a jammer it is also painfully obvious to the cop that you're using one so I'd hope you live in one of the few areas where they're still legal.


Radar/lidar detectors are almost worthless anyway and tend to give a false sense of security.  A lot of people who use them actually get MORE tickets in the long run, and your chances of compassion from an officer usually go right out the window the instant he notices you have a detector.  Judges tend to not like them very much either.


Special note--if "pace clock" means the same thing where BLCKMGK lives as it does here, then a detector or jammer wouldn't have made any difference for him except he proably would have given a higher citation.


J_A_B

[Gixer]

When they say "Do you know what speed you were doing" means they haven't a clue and need you to tell them so they can write the ticket. I always say 110kph :-)

I once got pinged for 120kph because he knew I was speeding but by the time he booted up the radar detector I was down to 125kph.

At the time I was actually doing  somewhere around 150kph

Worst ticket I ever got was for 160kph overtaking a unmarked car. Though the funniest ever was passing a truck on a hill and then realise he was behind a police car, I blitzed them both and thought F*** it and just kept going.

Though my mate was behind me and the cops pulled him over out of frustration I think and asked him If he knew who the other guy was.

Oh these were on roads limited to 100kph. And when on a bike that can do 150kph in first 100 is bugger all. And no I don't make a habbit of speeding at ridiculous speeds too much on the road, tend to save it for more even surfaces like the track or speedway.



...-Gixer

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Invest in a good radar detector and laser jammer. Saves me a lot.

Oh and before the soap-box-morales team chimes in I've been "incorrectly" clocked by laser at maximum range which is why I decided to defend myself from unreliable technology.

My brother inlaw had installed the latest and top of the range Bell radar dectors and laser jammers in his new M3 beemer and after a month he took them out. Thought they were crap. Problem is the cops (when two in a car) often just ping you for a nanosecond and then turn it off. By the time the detector chirps you already have a ticket. And if the cop knows how to operate the lazer properly you won't have any luck there either.

Think alot of the marketing of radar detectors and jammers etc is hype and aren't worth it. My new girlfriend is a cop and they always laugh when they see some little black box with lights on the dash as they write the ticket.

I think the biggest joke in the police force is anything from Rocky Mountain or what ever they call it. $500 for $1 worth of lights and churps.



...-Gixer

[RTStuka]

The best product I saw was a radar jammer that actually screws with the reading the detector gives off. So when the cop hits you with the radar it will come back either saying your going something like 10-20 mph or it will swing the either way and say your traveling close to 250. The purpose is to make the cop think something is wrong with his machine.

[J_A_B]

Have you personally seen that machine in action RTStuka and seen its effect on the radar unit?

I've never seen anything like that.  Yeah I've seen it hyped and advertised, but in practice I've never seen it actually happen as you describe.   All the radar jammers I've seen work the same way and have the same, extremely distinct effect and it is NOT what you describe.   The ones I've seen in action all make the police unit display 000 (like I said, painfully obvious) although I don't claim to be familiar with every product on the market.


The great failing with radar/lidar jammers/detectors is the underlying assumption that police HAVE to tag you with radar or lidar in order to write a citation---which of course they don't.


J_A_B

[midnight Target]

Last November on a family trip across country I was cruising down hwy 70 near the Utah Wyoming borsder. This Utah HP car pulls in on my bellybutton and stays there for about 5 miles. I was pegged on the speed limit (cruise control) and he still followed. I was entering a windy section, and there were signs that said 55, 50 etc. for some of the turns. So I slowed to that exact speed for those turns.

Then he pulls me over.

His exact words "Well sir, you were going kinda slow there I was wondering if you were under the influence or driving impaired." I said I was just obeying the signs. He said "Oh those turn signs are just a suggestion".

"have a nice day"