Author Topic: The US track and field team... (Read 1006 times)

Nash · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2004, 02:39:44 PM »

Saw a documentary last night about all this. Turns out during the '84 Olympics there were a TON of positives, and the sheet of paper that listed the names matching those positives was kept in a safe in one of the IOC official's hotel room.

Someone came in, took the safe and shredded the list.

Big sponsorship money from running shoe companies is pretty much to blame for all this, from what I could tell... But then who could even blame them? They couldn't very well use East German girls so doped up they became men before the age of 14 to hock their shoes.

Pongo · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2004, 05:29:30 PM »

Hell I just typed "carl lewis banned substances" into google and took the first of 1000s of hits.
Its a service I provide to people that insist something never happend without ever looking into it themselves.(except maybe on carllewis.com or whitehouse.org)

It was regular every day big old front page news when it was anounced. Sorry people have suppressed it.

Johnson was so stupid and pumped up after his win that when his lacky handed him the masking drink he said he didnt need it..lol
Lewis was so disapointed in losing so badly that he took his..

Pongo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2004, 05:35:32 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
pongown3d

Carl Lewis took Sudafed.

Oh Nos Sudafed!!!

You ever going to get tired of making yourself look stupid trying to prove me wrong? Do you have some kind of stock in Carl Lewis.com or something? what do you care that he cheated? Why ignore the obvios established fact that he did?
His tests where hidden from the Olyimpic comittee. They were not destroyed.(unlike someones service records) So the fact that he took a masking agent is undeniable. Why deny it?
Hes guilty. He should be stripped of his medals. Period.
He is not the greatest runner in history. He is just a cheater that was deliberatly sheltered by his country.
Just like the top runners in most every country probably where and are.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2004, 09:50:09 PM »

How exactly does pseudephedrine enhance fitness?

Nash · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2004, 09:54:10 PM »

You ever taken the stuff Funked?

A couple capsules, a random car backfire and I'm off like the freakin' WIND!

Nash · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2004, 10:18:56 PM »

Okay here's the deal as I understand it...

(could be all way wrong but what's new)

Starting in 74, the East Germans began the whole 'roid thing to make their country look like winners.

In the 76' Olympics, those East Germans owned pretty much everything. It's how the eastern block chick jokes started.

In '78 or so, Nike developed "Athletics West", which hired all the 'roid shoguns to teach all the US coaches what they knew.

By '80 - everyone was on dope... But Carter boycotted the games.

Then in '84 Moscow boycotted the games.

Still..... everyone was on dope.

Then in.... damn I'm confused because the winter Olympics got switched around so it's 2-2... but whatever...

The IOC had ZERO interest in revealing just how prevelant drugs were... except that they got busted by the press with the Ben Johnson case (was likely the IOC would have covered that up as well if they could). So the IOC does a nifty about-face, and calls for an independant doping investigating body...

And here we are.

Lewis was juiced as shreck... Only a moron would think otherwise. There were something like 8 confirmed positives in the race Johnson won.

I don't blame any of them... no way you could even qualify otherwise.

You had East Germany creating monsters to show the rest of the world how great their political system was. And you had Nike to show the rest of the world how great their shoes were. The athletes were the pawns... and some of those folks are REAL shrecked up now.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2004, 10:23:35 PM »

Sorry, you aren't going to get me excited about somebody taking cold medicine. Nothing like steroids or blood doping, not even close.

Nash · « **Reply #22 on:** July 15, 2004, 10:25:05 PM »

I don't know anything 'bout cold medicine..,.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2004, 10:27:11 PM »

This is starting to remind me of the Avro Arrow thread.

Nash · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2004, 10:29:04 PM »

dude...

Lewis.... juiced.... mkay?

not the end of the world.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2004, 11:07:23 PM »

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TORONTO (CP) "Exum (Ben Johnson's agent) said Lewis tested positive three times for small amounts of banned stimulants found in cold medications at the 1988 Olympic trials. The American Olympic body first disqualified Lewis, then accepted his appeal on the basis of inadvertent use. Lewis went on to win gold at Seoul in the long jump -- and in the 100 metres after Johnson was stripped of his gold medal and world record after being disqualified for using steroids."

Steriods...Sudafed...Steriods ...Sudafed...which one is sold out of the back of the truck behind the gym?

Nash · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2004, 11:12:11 PM »

Oh yeah yer right. Steriods were sold out of the backs of a trucks behind the local gyms.

Sudafed, on the otherhand, was an official sponsor to the Olympics and a good thing that was, seeing as so many athletes seemed to come down with colds at such an inopportune time.

EVERYONE was juiced to the TITS. My god...

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2004, 11:31:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
EVERYONE was juiced to the TITS. My god...

If I can find a single athlete who was not juiced then your statement would be incorrect... 10,000+ athletes at the games. Think the curling team is juiced? (yeah I know thats winter)

All I was pointing out that if I were to take anabolic steriods, I would know I was breaking the rules. It would be a clear cut dead bang violation. I could easily take an over the counter anti pollen drug and inadvertantly break the IOC's banned substance list.

Nash · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2004, 11:37:07 PM »

Oh so you could find a freakin' curler and make the whole thing moot?

k... neat and now lets enter the mysterious realm known as reality.

All I was pointing out that if I were to take anabolic steriods, I would know I was breaking the rules.

okay, yup, with ya.

It would be a clear cut dead bang violation.

Oh I hear ya!

I could easily take an over the counter anti pollen drug and inadvertantly break the IOC's banned substance list.

At this point I'm left with the nagging suspicion that I haven't got a fricken clue what you are trying to say.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #29 on:** July 15, 2004, 11:59:59 PM »

http://www.wada-ama.org/docs/web/standards_harmonization/code/list_standard_2004.pdf

I know better than you think.

Read the list and then check your medicine cabinet. Many over the counter medicines have ingredients on the list. Can you pass the urinalysis any time throughout the year as a competitive athlete needs to? (at least a high profile one?)

Yeah, and all I need is a single athlete to show your broad brush statement is wrong. Like I said 10,000+ competitors.

Steven Redgrave for instance took the banned substance Insulin. But then again he is a diabetic. You want to take away his medals?