God this game gets repetitive.

[GODO]

Dont look for the kills, look for the deaths. One plane can die only once per sortie, but can kill more than one target:

109G10 4897 deaths.
109G6 1621 deaths.
109G2 771 deaths.
109F4 2022 deaths.
109E 370 deaths.
Total 109s: 9681 deaths.

190A5 2515 deaths.
190A8 3695 deaths.
190F8 724 deaths.
190D9 5464 deaths.
Total 190s: 12398 deaths.

Spit I 781 deaths.
Spit IX 13007 deaths.
Spit XIV 217 deaths
SpitV 11703 deaths.
Seafire 7364 deaths.
total spits: 33072 deaths.

Typhoon 6382 deaths.

P51D 18050 deaths.
P51B 986 deaths.
Total P51s: 19036 deaths.

P38L 15564 deaths.

N1K2J 14234 deaths.

La7 15750 deaths.
La5  2093 deaths.
Total Las: 17843 deaths.

P47D25 868 deaths.
P47D40 4429 deaths.
P47D11 585 deaths.
Total P47: 5882 deaths.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by Urchin
Niki, spit spit spit, nik, la7 la7 la7 spit p51 p51 p51 niki typh typh nik spit la7 p51 nik la7  

P.. what the **** is a P-38?!!  

la7 la7 nik nik spit typh typh nik spit spit la7 la7 la7 p51 p51 p51 la7 nik nik spit typh typh .

1... 10...  holy ****!! a 109!!!!

nik la7 spit spit p51 nik nik la7 p51 typh typh p51 la7 la7 nik nik spit spit ink la7 la7..  

Whats the point of the ENY value?  Perk adjustment?  Nobody gives a ****, nobody flies anything but the spit/nik, la7/p51, with the typh for when that fuel really has to go down.  

Just take out every plane but the P51, la7, nik, and spit, replace the other planes with more paint jobs for those 5.  You'll have a much happier fan base, everyone can have their own paint job.  So even though all the icons will still be the same, at least the planes will look a little different once you are fighting the 6 of them.

Sounds like you're hangin with the wrong crowd. But ya pays yer money and ya flys what ya likes.

[TweetyBird]

It would be easier if these posts were formatted as such...

" Cool people shouldn't fly (insert plane type)."

I know it looks ridiculous without all the fluff and rationalizations, but it does with them also.

[Polaris]

Originally posted by GODO
Dont look for the kills, look for the deaths. One plane can die only once per sortie, but can kill more than one target:
 

Excellent point, sir!

[JB73]

Originally posted by GODO
Dont look for the kills, look for the deaths. One plane can die only once per sortie, but can kill more than one target:

Total 109s: 9681 deaths.

Total 190s: 12398 deaths.

total spits: 33072 deaths.

Typhoon 6382 deaths.

Total P51s: 19036 deaths.

P38L 15564 deaths.

N1K2J 14234 deaths.

Total Las: 17843 deaths.

total spits almost double total 109 AND 190. wow.

total p51 seems to be slipping, good to hear, but what about the yaks? i seen so many lately you'd think they were a variant of a spit.

TY for the data collection Mandoble <>

[jodgi]

I do my part in filling the MA with the not-so-commonly-used planes, because it pleases me.

Originally posted by DipStick
Like what you fly and fly what you like. It doesn't matter what others think...

...if ENY / Perk values don't cause players to try the older, slower rides, nothing else will.

I think something could make people choose alternative rides, I've been over this before but I don't mind repeating myself.

Knowing that so many players care about their score, including ENY value into the scoring equation would make a difference. Not all players would care, for sure, but many would. If a kill in a C205 yields more score than a kill in a P51D, I'm sure many players would persuade themselves into flying the C205 a bit more.

What I hope such a scoring system would do is to make the MA more diverse, and IMO, more fun.

There's a nice side effect too. I believe the score would be more valid, at least it would be one step in the right direction. I can't envision a scoring system that would truly tell you about an individual players skill, so I'm not aiming for that.

Do I mean to suggest that it takes more skill to rack up kills in a Ki-61 than a SpitIX?.... Yes.

I don't really care about score, so this scoring system wouldn't affect me at all, oddly enough.

I just have a humble wish to see more plane models in the MA.

"Like what you fly and fly what you like. It doesn't matter what others think..." I would never disregard this mantra.

Plane/Perk/Score... You choose.

[Overlag]

perk the top 3-5 aircraft....even if its just 5 perks...........

[Furious]

If HTC wanted to, they could "encourage" the use of the "lesser" planes by drastically changing the eny and perk costs of the now perked planes.

Like, say, at the end of every month the top 4-5 planes' eny is changed to 1.  The least used 25 planes' eny goes to 100+.  

Then greatly increase the costs of the most desirable perk rides.  For example a 262 might now cost 1000 perks.  


...in addition revamp the perk multiplier such that outnumbered teams reap HUGE perk rewards.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Overlag
perk the top 3-5 aircraft....even if its just 5 perks...........

Why?  None of those planes change the balance of game play.  



ack-ack

[JB73]

Originally posted by Overlag
perk the top 3-5 aircraft....even if its just 5 perks...........

unfortuantly the problem i see with that is what "are" the top 3-5 planes??

if the most kills it is certain planes, if like Mando showed most killed it can be other planes, if it is best k/d then even different planes.

i am against perking the dora personally, because it does nto have any advantage over and la7 or P51, they both our turn and out manuever it, and la7 groosly out climbs it. the dora has no advantage over any of the current perk planes, except the Chog. all the others are faster and manuever better.

yet the dora holds a high k/d in the MA stats.

it has only 1/2 the deaths of the spit V, and less than 1/3 the deaths of the P51 & the la7, so it is obviously not used nearly as much... yet it almost always gets lumped in with the perk group when talking about the "top 5 to perk" or whatever.



go ahead and say i'm partial to the 190d, but the stats and performance dont lie.

[BUG_EAF322]

my top 5

1Model type    Kills In  
P-38L              147        
Me 262            20          
Ship Gunner    14          
Me 163B          13          
FM2                  8          

my top 5 of killers

Model type     Killed By      
Ostwind            14              
La-7                    7            
Spitfire Mk IX      5            
P-38L                  4              
Typhoon IB         4              


            Kills Of
P-51D               19
Lancaster III    16
P-38L               14
B-17G               14
La-7                 13

 Model type  Died In
P-38L             32
A-20G            10
PT Boat           6
TBM-3             6
LVTA4             5


so all i can say bring more sissy stangs

[AKFokerFoder+]

I fly the LA7 and P51-D as much as possible.

The LA7 is very nimble, brutal acceleration, good guns package and great views..

The Pony is quite maneuverable, great guns package, lots of fuel, lots of jabo capabilities, fast... just an all around great ride.

With rides like that, why choose anything else???

Does flying the better planes make me a dweeb?

And the answer is........

I don't care

BTW

this tour Urchin has 36 kills in a Spittie IV

last tour he had 65 kills in a NIKI

hmmmmm......

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why?  None of those planes change the balance of game play.  



ack-ack

because it would make something different? its a shame to see so many planes go unused..........

[B17Skull12]

Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
last tour he had 65 kills in a NIKI

hmmmmm......

LOL!! i remember that.  He was getting pissed with all the damn niks so he said over vox (ok easymode time i've had enough **** from nik/la7/p51/spit's.  It was funny watching imh land 6 or 7 kills at a time all day long lol.

[J_A_B]

Well then use em     Nobody's stopping ya!

Those "other" planes aren't un-used anyway.   They're there for events and the CT.   Not every plane needs to see use in the MA for it to havea purpose!


Some seople don't realize that the popular planes ARE essentially perked, except you don't get your points back if you land.   Why is this?

It's due to the ENY value.

If I fly a P-51D I'll get around 2-4 points for a 4-kill flight; in a C.205 I'll get twice that many for the same 4 kills....so flying the 51D IS costing me perks.   Adding injury to insult is the fact that it's easier to get kills in the 205 in the sort of flying I do.


Besides, get rid of the top 3 and then you'll just have a different top 3.  Personally I think the MA's variety is fine as it is.

Want to make it look like there's more variety?   Change the ICONs to show sub-type.   Remember---you see a lot of spits, it's true, but if you see 5 spits, there's probably 3 different models in there!


J_A_B