Author Topic: Alot to say (Read 1218 times)

Gary26 · « **on:** July 24, 2004, 11:29:54 PM »

This is a combination of a reply too Mister Fork and a new thread. To Mister Fork, i think the ranking system should be left alone. I don't see much chest pounding from guyz like Eagler and Eskimo who are two of the highest ranking guyz in CT. I know my squadmates Wombat and Costly are very proud of there rank and not once have i heard them brag. They fly everyday and since they came too my squad they have died ALOT too get too where they are. I like too land safely with kills under my belt and get my "name in lights". I think until we have people running around chest banging about rank that it's not an issue. I respect all most all of the pilots in CT it is the "small town bar" enviornment that i enjoy. You know these people and where they live and there style. I guess that is why i get so upset about the occasional vulch in CT. Ihave been able to kill while others were landing and waved off and others have done the same. It is the respect for others that makes the CT great for me. I don't think that it is aan arena full of "score potatos" and if a guy EARNS 2-3 kills why shouldn't he land them. It's more about accomplishment than about bragging rights
Now for #2
What has happened too the CT? Ayear ago the would be up to 50 people on a saturday night. Tonight there was 9. It has been like that for a while. If it hasn't already been done, maybe we should find out what it is that hve driven the people away. I miss flying against Shop and snoopy and Twodoggs. Imiss all the old squads that used too be there. I the JG-54. Without those guyz i don't think there would be much for fights. Ithink we should look into the #'s thing and maybe try and come up with some fresh ideas too get people into the CT more often. Maybe it's just the limited skill of the pilots not being able to cope with a limited plane set. Ilove the historical aspect of the arena and that is why i fly there. Please try and reframe form the hate male if u could. If anyone has any ideas maybe we should try them.

CurtissP-6EHawk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2004, 11:45:50 PM »

Many were not able to upgrade thier computer.

Rank, Score potatos etc...well, that wont change...and could be one reason, as well as the taunting abuse on Ch1, why the CT stays empty.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 24, 2004, 11:49:24 PM »

P6e, that is why you hunt down and keel taunters like shane. Then tell them to go back to the ma. with the except of shane. We can live with shane.

Gary26 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:31:20 AM »

Skull12 is right if someone talks crap just kill'em.
The #'s in CT were going down hill before AH2 came out to replace AH1. I don't think stoping ch. 1 has done anything people have found away around it. Just love this game and it really sucks too see the CT going down hill. I think there is a better caliber of pilot's that fly in here.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:34:50 AM »

well. i think most are moving on to games that better fit their needs.i know the 325 FG Checktails have moved to Il:FB, they have a 24 hour server up. JG3 is ded. JG54 lost a lot of players whom were damn good pilots i might add to AH2. Im also starting to get burnt out of AH. Im sick of pac setup. and the fact that everyone flies on Est. Many more have done the same thing as i will most likely do. stop playing AH for a bit.

Eagler · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2004, 08:46:16 AM »

the narrower the planeset the fewer flyers

the larger the map, the fewer the flyers

foggy clouds, restricted dar, the fewer the flyers

this week has all the above

historical is great but it serves no purpose if there is no one to fight

I'm not going in with 2 bad guys over 40 miles away in the fog

it needs to open up, more planes less space between bases, clearer skies

??? - why is dar back to long range on the bad guys, comp for the fog?

storch · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2004, 08:55:16 AM »

Speaking for myself the AH format is the most user friendly and allows for good player interactivity.

The situation in the CT is complex and the solutions will only be found with much thinking, consideration, consultation with the players and creative experimentation. Change is always chaotic. I have never experienced a smooth transition in my life.

Perhaps AHII was launched prematurely. It certainly is buggy enough to warrant that critizism but it is here. I seriously doubt the HTC will re-introduce AHI so the choice is up to you, the individual player. Do I stay or do I go? I left a bit and played other games WB 2004 and I still occasionally play IL-2. IL-2 is great and it is certainly more challenging than AH. AH is arcadish compared to IL-2 but I prefer AH for the above reason.

The solution is really threefold, first is the very real problem of playability. I have an awesome box and yet only see FRs in the 40s most of the time. Occasionally they drop into the teens. Then there is the nagging CTD issue. These are the most prominent defects with the programming but there are others. There is no reason to have to put up with that performance in a game you are paying for. In my opinion the game should have been Beta tested longer. I suspect HT has shot himself in the foot and is feeling it in the wallet. I hope they can remedy these issues directly.

The second solution is new people. Perhaps HT will run his ads on the wings channel again. This is where we come in. I'm not pointing fingers and I acknowledge my guilt in this area. Many of us are stunninghunks. ESPECIALLY to the newbies!! My son started playing, paid up his account and will not subscribe to the next tour. He says that many people were mean to him and he doesn't feel like spending his money here. We need to behave more like tankman, wombat, bear76, oldman and others. We need to behave less like storch and many that I will not mention but you know who you are.

Thirdly we need better maps and sets. I don't know of many players who enjoy early war and here we have two weeks of it in a row. The CT should to be fun, it hasn't been for me for two weeks.

CurtissP-6EHawk · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2004, 10:47:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
the narrower the planeset the fewer flyers

the larger the map, the fewer the flyers

foggy clouds, restricted dar, the fewer the flyers

this week has all the above

historical is great but it serves no purpose if there is no one to fight

I'm not going in with 2 bad guys over 40 miles away in the fog

it needs to open up, more planes less space between bases, clearer skies

??? - why is dar back to long range on the bad guys, comp for the fog?

Its not Fog its HAZE. I have been flying in real life for the past week in 3 to 4 miles visability due to HAZE. Its realistic and a part of life. The one thing that runs me out of the CT is the MA settings, taunting, and ETO plane sets. Its three weeks of 109s and one week of zeros. 20 miles visabilty and inflight GPS/RADAR.

I have two books that cost a lot of money but are wonderful. "The Official Monogram US Army Air Service & Air Corps Aircraft Color Guide" (1908-1941) Vol. 1 by Robert D Archer. The other is " USAAF Aircraft Markings and Camouflage 1941-1947 by Archer and Archer. Much of the camouflage schemes was due to HAZE.

I know this is a game and guys want to log in, depart a field, meet in the middle and furball. Thats not what the CT is supose to be. Thats what the DA is for. The CT stays empty because of the plane sets, what I said above, base porking and guys just getting burned out from time to time.

Personaly I would like to see dot dar gone. Only an arrow in the area of the most action and a "dot" every so often as a "radar report" and not inflight radar. CVs no closer than 10 miles from land. Time limited deaths, lazer gunners in bomber formations, Auto takeoffs and auto pilot....
Basicly a full realistic arena. It would stay empty but separate the men from the boys! This you would see the return of the 325th Checkertails. Givin a chanch, I think Jg-54 would make a great squad for this. Also would see the VMF-312th return. BAsicly a Speacial Events arena 24 hours a day.

I have seen this for 7 years from WarBirds to AHII. Nothing changes but the players.

BTW, take a look at the squadron "Hells Angles" in the MA. You will notice that it is a mixture of CT squads

Oh and I forgot the plastering of message posters just because one disagrees with what the poster posts

Rafe35 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2004, 12:27:04 PM »

The VF-17 Jolly Rogers seem to about to be dead, because hardly no one in the squadron is on, but me and Arlo. Last Year was good old days, but this year? Blah.

Gary26 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2004, 12:43:47 PM »

I thinkd Storch had the right idea. Maybe would should revise the Cadet/trainer thing and make it easier too use. Maybe suggest that people start out in CT and ask guys like Wombat and bear76 if they would volunteer too be on the list for help. Come up with something telling these noobs that if u are in this arena look for said people and they will help, but please discourage the unannounced invites.

I for one would be happy too help because if it wasn't for the same type of people, in CT, i would have never given this game a chance outside of the free trial. It was in the CT where i found the people willing too help.

Grits · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:14:52 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
The second solution is new people. Perhaps HT will run his ads on the wings channel again. This is where we come in. I'm not pointing fingers and I acknowledge my guilt in this area. Many of us are stunninghunks. ESPECIALLY to the newbies!! My son started playing, paid up his account and will not subscribe to the next tour. He says that many people were mean to him and he doesn't feel like spending his money here. We need to behave more like tankman, wombat, bear76, oldman and others. We need to behave less like storch and many that I will not mention but you know who you are.

That upsets me a bit Storch, because I told everyone I could who your son was and said "Hey, whatever you think of Storch, xxxxx is his son so be nice to him, he's new and just getting started in AH". I guess they didnt listen, sorry about that.

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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Its not Fog its HAZE. I have been flying in real life for the past week in 3 to 4 miles visability due to HAZE. Its realistic and a part of life. The one thing that runs me out of the CT is the MA settings, taunting, and ETO plane sets. Its three weeks of 109s and one week of zeros. 20 miles visabilty and inflight GPS/RADAR.

I agree, its very hazy here, and the haze effect looks real. I also liked the shorter 3.0k con ranges in the CT better than the MA settings. I dont mind the ETO setups, and well, you deserve to get taunted you doo doo head.

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I know this is a game and guys want to log in, depart a field, meet in the middle and furball. Thats not what the CT is supose to be. Thats what the DA is for. [/b]

Who says? You are the only person I have heard say that. I think the CT is for whatever style of flying you want, but with as historic as possible plane matchups and maps. I think most (myself included) choose to furball because thats whats most FUN, no other reason. If I want reality, I'll rent a 152, or race my motorcycle, or race my car, all of which are more challenging than AH. This is a game, nothing more nothing less and it should relieve stress not add it. You dont have fun because the majority dont conform to your vision of what the CT should be and you cant get over that.

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Personaly I would like to see dot dar gone. Only an arrow in the area of the most action and a "dot" every so often as a "radar report" and not inflight radar. CVs no closer than 10 miles from land. Time limited deaths, lazer gunners in bomber formations, Auto takeoffs and auto pilot....
Basicly a full realistic arena.[/b]

While I like shorter ranges in the CT than the MA settings, doing the above would be signing the CT's death warrant and shovling dirt on top of it.

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I have seen this for 7 years from WarBirds to AHII. Nothing changes but the players.[/b]

Ever wonder why? Because what you dislike in gameplay is what most think is fun, what you call the Hampster Wheel of "up, die, repeat". I agree its unrealistic, but its FUN damnit!

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BTW, take a look at the squadron "Hells Angles" in the MA. You will notice that it is a mixture of CT squads [/b]

Best thing to happen to the CT IMO is the Hells Angles. Lots of CT "enemies" flying together in the MA only to find out "Hey that guy that I hate in the CT because he is always (insert Allied/Axis) is really an OK guy". Of course, since I am a side switcher, I already knew they were all good guys, so it didnt surprize me at all when I started hearing that.

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Oh and I forgot the plastering of message posters just because one disagrees with what the poster posts [/B]

Doo doo head.

Grits · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:21:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Gary26
Maybe suggest that people start out in CT and ask guys like Wombat and bear76 if they would volunteer too be on the list for help.

I would be more than happy to be on the list. The only problem is, where do they find out who is a trainer? I think for it to work, you would have to have the CT staff put those peoples names on the MOTD every week, otherwise how do they find out?

Gary26 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:28:09 PM »

Thats why i said we should revise the system somehow so it is easier too get these names.

Arlo · « **Reply #13 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:31:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Rafe35
The VF-17 Jolly Rogers seem to about to be dead, because hardly no one in the squadron is on, but me and Arlo. Last Year was good old days, but this year? Blah.

Hey. Don't look at me! I think it was YOUR deoderant.

Arlo · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2004, 01:45:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits

Best thing to happen to the CT IMO is the Hells Angles. Lots of CT "enemies" flying together in the MA only to find out "Hey that guy that I hate in the CT because he is always (insert Allied/Axis) is really an OK guy". Of course, since I am a side switcher, I already knew they were all good guys, so it didnt surprize me at all when I started hearing that.

Awww ... pfffft .... fug ewe. Oh wait. Actually I think the every single CT regular should join the H As and spread the word profusely. At the same time I'd like to see the H As not get "stuck" in the MA.

Reasons:

If the H As make a decent name for themselves in the MA (which, I believe, they already have) then they may drag some good sticks back to the CT with them.
The camraderie within the H As will indeed bring CT players together. Hell ... even dipwads like Bear76 and DrWeevil may be able to overcome their genetic deficiencies. (Heh ... gdr)

Ahem!

The opportunity to develop the best tactics against Spit/Nik/Lala/Pony/Yak/Dora/262 dweebs on a regular basis and bring it back to the CT to throw in the faces of those whining about fighting those types of planes.

Eh ... that's all I can make ... errr .. think up for now.