Outnumbered by Rooks...again

[rpm]

Yea, those numbers quoted by the thread starter are totally false. I was on the entire time checking roster. The most Rooks had on was 217, while Bishops had 142 and Knights had 129.

Nice try at flaming me after I logged. The numbers I posted were accurate at the time of the post. It did get better as the horde started to log. You guys are losing the focus of the post, it's not RJO on Sundays that is the problem. It's an everyday numbers thing. Last night was just the worst I had seen in quite a while.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by ghostdancer

First off the Bishops have always lossed more than they have killed except for the first 3 months.

This indicates one of two possible things .. either they on average have had more pilots flying or their pilots fly more hops. Now from 2/00 to 2/03 basically their total number of kills were very competitive with the other two countries (not talking about K/D but total kills).

Or is it possible the Bishops just die alot more and kill alot less than Rooks per average sortie? Saying all countries have an exactly equal amount of skill and talent is a very romantic notion, and very politically correct. I personally believe it's totally ludicrous and highly improbable statistically. Fantasizing that skill/talent evenly distributes itself randomly across the 3 countries by chance or design is rediculously naive and is in complete contradiction to human nature. There is a difference in the flying skill/talent/tactics of each country, that is why the Kills and Deaths statistics for each country remain relatively constant over the course of years regardless of wide numerical fluctuations.

If you use logical deductive reasoning when looking at the Kill/Death statistics from the beginning of AH to the present, skill/talent/tactics are the only possible explanation why those numbers remain relatively constant while the number of players/sorties fluctuates greatly. Obviously, those consistant Kill/Death numbers are not derived from the numbers of players or sorties flown, the causal factor has to be the 'quality' of players, therefore the 'quality' of the individual sorties flown.

There is a core of players each country has that does not switch countries, so largely defines their particular countries' 'character'. I'm sorry, but there is a difference between the countries, I know, I fly all of them. It's as obvious as a dog's balls if you actually fly for the different countries for protracted periods and pay attention to patterns and behavior.

Zazen

P.S. Sorry if this offends anyone, 'political correctness' has never been one of my character flaws.

[straffo]

For the record my country is my squad ... and it appear they fly rook currently

[crowMAW]

Originally posted by ghostdancer
crowMAW I came on around 9:00 and the Nightmares were in the south hitting the Bishops (who were at the time crossing the bay and hitting A42 and P39.

Around that time it looked to me Rooks were at 180+. Not sure of before 9 pm.

That does not sound inconsistant with what I observed.  Earlier in the evening -- 8-8:30 pm -- Rook numbers were in the 215-225 range.  The Truce began working between 8:30-9pm.  Counter offensives began and Rooks (at least in the north) were repelled 9-9:30pm.  

It is certainly plausable that by 9:30 Rook squad night was over and 40 Rook members logged for bed.  But it sure seems like Rook normally maintain much higher numbers on Sunday eves than they did last night...especially when they are on a roll an only 11 bases from a reset on a small map.  I know that our squad night ops usually run till 11pm for the east coast guys on a weekday night, but do continue on till 11pm pacific for the west coast guys.  I can only assume that Rook squads are about the same.

Perhaps the Truce's success had no significant effect on Rook numbers.  But I can tell you this...I noticed a few guys that I know to have been Rook earlier in the day were flying Knit during the Truce and being very verbal about the stupidity of a truce and trying to break it by setting up missions against the Bish. I outed  at least one of those people and the mission was scrubbed.  So at least some of the Rook decline in numbers was due to the Truce.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Sounds like what you, few, honorable people really need is the Combat Theater, not ENORMOUS MA MAPS. Then, you 4 guys and the other 4 guys in there can take turns bashing each other's brain's out at 4k in SpitV's or whichever flavor stall-fighter it has at the time.

The only thing that surpasses your arrogance is your use of the roll eyes emoticon.

[Dr.Phil]

Originally posted by Zazen13
go Rooks and listen to the deep tonal quality of the adults for comparison.

Time to come out of the closet.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by SlapShot
The only thing that surpasses your arrogance is your use of the roll eyes emoticon.

It's my favorite!

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Dr.Phil
Time to come out of the closet.

Wow, you created a BBS account just to be cute, that's just...ummm....special.

Zazen

[Widewing]

Originally posted by xBarrelx
Reading comprehension 101? You may go to hell sir. It was 12:40 in the morning. I was a little tired. So shoot me.

LOLOLOL. You may notice that I replied at 1:19 in the morning and was sufficiently lucid despite having been up since 4:30 AM the previous morning.

I cannot shoot anyone else for a while... The local Sheriff stated that he will no longer entertain the self-defense excuse, largely due to two biceps and two forearms not meeting the spirit of law in defining unfriendly people as being "armed". Simply saying "oops!" drew a stern frown of reproof.

Seriously, please accept my apology for being rude. I get cranky when tired.

My regards,

Widewing

[simshell]

so what do you guys want

putting all new players into the most short handed country when they log for the first time?

did not let anyone log unto to a country with a much larger amount of players?


like if the rooks have 45% more players then the lowest country so no more people can log on to the rooks and take off so there forced to move to other country


the first 1 will help but it well turn the lowest country into a noob hole with alot more rookies then the others

the 2 will make alot of people madd and whines will be huge and will if anyone cares make more spys which i dont realy care about

but plz bring up some idea if your going to make a thread

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by simshell
so what do you guys want

putting all new players into the most short handed country when they log for the first time?

did not let anyone log unto to a country with a much larger amount of players?

What I really want is winning lotto numbers!! But, I would be satisfied if everyone quit complaining about odds.

[Hyrax81st]

Originally posted by Murdr
And if you had bothered to read my post...

I guess I'm too stupid to understand your use of the English language as I did read your post.

You believe quality of gameplay is about equivalent forces. I believe quality of gameplay is more about enjoying working with people I like. That means I still play for "my side" even when we're getting our prettythanges handed to us on certain evenings when WE are outnumbered. I don't whine about it. It's just a game.

Have I missed your point again ?

Do you understand mine ?

Any more 8th grade taunts you wish to hurl at me ?

[xBarrelx]

Seriously, please accept my apology for being rude. I get cranky when tired.

[/B]

HA! I beat ya....I was up since three the previous morning. Only 1 and a half hour difference but who cares. Apologie accepted.

[B17Skull12]

the day i land a sortie with 5 kills in the ma is the day the knights get overwhelming numbers.

[rpm]

Just wanted to show it's not only Sunday nights. At 11:30 Monday night the numbers were:

Bishop- 72

Knight- 83

Rook- 128

Bishops had a small advantage earlier for squad night, then it returned to normal.