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Offline vorticon

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2004, 04:21:22 PM »
easiest way to get rid of the illegal immigrants is to make them all legal

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2004, 04:25:13 PM »
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easiest way to get rid of the illegal immigrants is to make them all legal


now, that's an idea. While we're at it we can also eliminate all crime. Wouldn't we all want that?

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2004, 04:28:18 PM »
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You mean the ilegal mexicans or the ilegal canadians?


Or the illegal Americans....:D

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2004, 04:30:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Bodhi
every illegal should be sent back across the border with a custom collar fitted around their neck.  This collar like the one from the Running Man will explode if they ever come across the US border again...

that and increasing the budget to send the existing illegals packing would solve all problems!  :D


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I agree.  My original post was going to be to set up machine gun posts on the borders, but your idea is much better.

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2004, 04:42:12 PM »
Well to say the least it's a complex problem , in my point of view anyway . So instead of offering an uninformed opinion of what should be done <----cuz i have no idea at what the options are , i'll offer up insight on who they are. And this pertains to mexican's , not terriorist's .
 They are people just like us , workers , family men , drug dealers , gang bangers , ect. Many come up just to break front line laws , killing , theiving , ect. domestic terrorizim is what i call it . Many come up just to feed thier family across the border and these are the one's i'll focus on here . I put myself in thier shoe's cuz i can .
What If i were busting my arse fighting for jobs that arnt there , for money worth less than dirt to feed a family i love and hoplessly failing at evey turn .
 What if my buddy joe-bob came and said we could sneak across the border to work for say 110k a year . Ya know , bout 10 ta 15 times what i can make here IF i could land a job .
Would i not try ? What's the worst that can happen ? I get busted , sent back and try again ? No the worst that can happen is that I'd have ta scape up a years local wages to pay someone to sneek me across , have 30 people cramed into a space fit for five , no food , no water and eventualy no air , or burn in a firey crash .
And then when or if i get there I'm treated like shat, forced to live in a spider hole , get screwd out of half my wages and  am on the local hit list by some redneck who's insight can't see past the bottom of a beer bottle .
And then ( and this is the thing i like best ) come back and do it again next year .
Would we not do the same if positions were revesed ?
Please don't missunderstand me , I AM NOT DEFENDING illegal imagration .
But who can fault those who come with honest intentions . I can,t becuz i would do the same thing .

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2004, 04:44:51 PM »
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now, that's an idea. While we're at it we can also eliminate all crime. Wouldn't we all want that?


sure is ;)

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2004, 04:50:53 PM »
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But who can fault those who come with honest intentions . I can,t becuz i would do the same thing .


Stealing bread is still a theft.

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2004, 05:14:58 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2004, 05:39:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad
It's a major problem and one that affects the "jobs" situation far up the chain.

Note that both parties really don't want to talk about it or actually do anyting about it.

i lost my high paying melon picking job to illegals. that why i was forced into construction work. i miss the 14 hour days in the sun and rain. the $2.00 per hour wages. ahhh the good ole days. i think we should stop it by building a iron curtain type wall across the U.S.- Mexican border. i would hire mexican contractors to build it, they would definately compleat it on time and under budget.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2004, 08:00:01 PM »
Oh, how sarcastic of you. And how witty.

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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2004, 08:32:07 PM »
If there were no illegals to take the melon picking job, do you think the farmers would totally get out of the melon business or do you think perhaps they'd be willing to pay more?

And if melon picking jobs started paying as much or more than construction jobs, what do you think would happen to construction wages when folks left construction jobs to pick melons?

What do you think of the idea of legislatively raising the minimum wage? Good or bad?
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2004, 09:04:49 PM »
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Just curious, does anyone out there have any opinions on illegal immigration?  Does anybody care?  More information to follow depending on responses.


I feel sorry for them.

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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2004, 01:01:07 AM »
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Stealing bread is still a theft.




by the look's of your pic you could use some theft lol (j/k)

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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2004, 01:15:57 AM »
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i lost my high paying melon picking job to illegals. that why i was forced into construction work. i miss the 14 hour days in the sun and rain. the $2.00 per hour wages. ahhh the good ole days. i think we should stop it by building a iron curtain type wall across the U.S.- Mexican border. i would hire mexican contractors to build it, they would definately compleat it on time and under budget.
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But if we hire them to build the wall, that is construction work, and that is what you do! So you advocate people replacing you in your job... how benevolent of you.  You may be intrested in how many drywall hangers are illegals now.

What we need to do is a guest worker program.  You show up at the US Guest Worker Office in Mexicali, put down your name and skill on the list, then those on the US side of the border come down abnd hire so many farm workers or dry wall hangers.  Like getting workers from th union hall.

Employers must meet a minimum standard for working conditions, employment periods are controlled, those who give birth under the guest worker program do not have citizenship automatically granted to children, and guest workers could earn points toward eventual citizenship.

A modicum of control could be achieved, coyotes could be run out of business, no more people cooked in a box truck in the Sonoran summer heat, win - win.
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2004, 03:29:57 AM »
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Originally posted by JBA
The last number I heard was that 13000 a day cross the boarder.


damn...

13000 potential terrorists every day? and you worried about some nutjob in a galaxy far far away called saddam?


jesus....that would double our population in 346 days and afew hours (unless the first once made some babies)
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