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Offline SaburoS

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« on: July 28, 2004, 02:13:39 PM »
Hmmm, so maybe Kerry did rescue a fellow soldier in Vietnam.
Does that make him a hero?
Outside of his political leanings, would you concider what he did heroic?

Kerry, Former Crewmates Arrive in Boston

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Minutes later, he bounded down the steps of his plane at Boston's Logan Airport, greeted by 13 veterans, some of whom had served with him aboard a naval swiftboat in Vietnam's Mekong Delta 35 years ago. The men hugged and slapped backs.


One of the greeters was Jim Rassmann, a Special Forces officer whose life Kerry saved a generation ago.


Wounded himself, Kerry plucked Rassmann from a river in Vietnam while under fire. Their emotional public reunion last winter set the stage for Kerry's upset victory in Iowa's caucuses two days later.

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2004, 02:16:55 PM »
Saving another human being's life is pretty heroic in my book, whether you're under fire or not.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2004, 02:18:25 PM »
You stinking liberal SOB.

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2004, 02:20:01 PM »
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Saving another human being's life is pretty heroic in my book, whether you're under fire or not.


And being sure to parade that feat for political purposes really negates some of the valor of the act in my book.
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Offline Hortlund

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2004, 02:21:04 PM »
Saving a life = good

Bragging about it = bad
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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2004, 02:28:13 PM »
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Saving a life = good

Bragging about it = bad


Where has he bragged about it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2004, 02:29:04 PM »
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And being sure to parade that feat for political purposes really negates some of the valor of the act in my book.


Where has he done that?
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2004, 02:41:20 PM »
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Where has he done that?


You're kidding, right?


From today's news alone...5 seconds worth of searching...

"Making the slow journey across the harbor with him were a dozen members of the Navy swift boat he commanded in Vietnam, along with Jim Rassmann, a Special Forces solider whose life Kerry saved"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp_18
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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »
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You're kidding, right?


From today's news alone...5 seconds worth of searching...

"Making the slow journey across the harbor with him were a dozen members of the Navy swift boat he commanded in Vietnam, along with Jim Rassmann, a Special Forces solider whose life Kerry saved"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp_18


Not at all. Show me where Kerry made statements that he was a war hero. I'd like to see them.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2004, 02:55:27 PM »
as far as im concerned.  anyone who served in the Military, Police, Firefighter, etc.  Deserves to be called a hero.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2004, 02:57:26 PM »
It has been arranged so he doesnt have to say it himself. His minions do that for him, and all he has to do is say stuff like "when I was in Vietnam" or "when I came back from Vietnam"...that and have a thousand photo ops with his old "war buddies".

You really arent that bright are you Saburo?
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2004, 02:58:17 PM »
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as far as im concerned.  anyone who served in the Military, Police, Firefighter, etc.  Deserves to be called a hero.


including the latrine scrubber ?
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2004, 02:59:58 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2004, 03:00:57 PM »
Suppose I save someone from drowning. Most would agree that would be a good thing to do, and it would speak well of my character.

Suppose I then hired someone to walk five paces infront of me wherever I go carrying a sign that says "here comes Hortlund, the man who saved someone from drowning". Then I would break into ever conversation I overheard with the words "that reminds me of when I was saving someone from drowning". Would that say anything about my character?
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Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2004, 03:05:54 PM »
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Suppose I save someone from drowning. Most would agree that would be a good thing to do, and it would speak well of my character.

Suppose I then hired someone to walk five paces infront of me wherever I go carrying a sign that says "here comes Hortlund, the man who saved someone from drowning". Then I would break into ever conversation I overheard with the words "that reminds me of when I was saving someone from drowning". Would that say anything about my character?


Exactly.
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