Ki-84 down, more to go.....

[Canaris]

I would like:

a early p38 preferably a p38D

b24

b25g

panther

[Karnak]

P-38D didn't really see any service.  A P-38F or P-38G would be far more useful.

[Panzzer]

Originally posted by mipoikel
There can be only one....



BREWSTER

Yep.

[Mitsu]

1. Ki-43 (Army main fighter like Navy A6M)
2. J2M (Navy Intercepter)
3. Ki-44 (Army Intercepter, lighter ammo and weight, excellent flight performance)
4. G4M (Most famous Navy Bomber with not bad performance)

want to see personally:

1. Ki-100-I-Otsu (bubble canopy ver of Ki-100, deadly TnBer.)
2. Ki-61-I-Otsu (12.7mm*4, lighter weight of Tony)
3. H8K2 Emily (IJN's great flying-boat like US army's B-17!)

[1K3]

Are you asking for more TARGET DRONES?

yep, i would love to see 2 Ki-44s (Ki-44-IIb armed with 4 12.7mm mguns, and Ki-44-IIc armed with 4 20mm cannons), a Ki-61-Ib, Ki-43, G4M2, J2M, and would Ki-100 as a perk plane (very limited production plane that saw limited service)  be ok?

[Tilt]

Originally posted by SunTracker
USA fought the largest air battles, not the Soviets.

this is incorrect

Russian order of battle for Operation Bagration late June44 an offensive which strechted across less than one quarter of the then eastern front which was quickly folloed by another of almost equal size to the south

Consisted of the following Air divisions each of which were made up of several  regiments (Squadrons), each squuadron could have as many as twenty aircraft depending upon type.

F=fighter, S=ground attack B =bomber NB=Night bomber

5GFAD
190FAD
211FAD
332SAD
335SAD
259FAD
314NBAD
3GBAD
4GBAD
5GBAD
6GBAD
113GBAD
334GBAD
213NBAD
307SAD
308SAD
3GFAD
4GFAD
7GFAD
322GFAD
265FAD
278FAD
325NBAD
230SAD
233SAD
229FAD
309FAD
242NBAD
3SAD
336FAD
241BAD
301FAD
196SAD
199SAD
273FAD
323FAD
279FAD
215FAD
221BAD
282FAD
1GFAD
2GSAD
132BAD
234FAD
283FAD
286FAD
299SAD
300SAD

[Mitsu]

Originally posted by 1K3
Are you asking for more TARGET DRONES?

yep, i would love to see 2 Ki-44s (Ki-44-IIb armed with 4 12.7mm mguns, and Ki-44-IIc armed with 4 20mm cannons), a Ki-61-Ib, Ki-43, G4M2, J2M, and would Ki-100 as a perk plane (very limited production plane that saw limited service)  be ok?

The Ki-44-IIc didn't have 4 20mm cannon.
And the Ki-100 is not rare plane. not very limited production.

[GScholz]

Two thirds of the Luftwaffe's strength was deployed in the east. The strategic bombing campaign in the west was but a sideshow compared to the huge air battles fought over the Russian Front.

Edit: Even the huge 1000 bomber raids in the west pales to the largest air battle in history: Kursk. 2,900 Soviet and 1,830 German combat aircraft fighting over a battlefield swarming with over 7,500 tanks and millions of men.

[1K3]

Originally posted by Mitsu
The Ki-44-IIc didn't have 4 20mm cannon.

They did carry 4x 20mm (Ho-3) cannons (or sometimes the 37mm on Ki-44c-37) and used them to pork the B-29s

[Mitsu]

No they didn't.

[1K3]

then how can Ki-44s shot down small numbers of B-29s with just 2 12.7 and 2 7.7s? it would take them forever to down a B-29 with just mguns

[Crumpp]

The Air War in East vs Air War in the West debate!

I agree the battles in the East were larger.  The casualties the Luftwaffe suffered in the West though were greater.  The Luftwaffe bled itself dry in the Defense of the Reich.  They never developed an effective strategic defense.  It was too late by the time they realized the Danger the Allied Air Forces in the West posed.

Great reads on the subject are:

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0887403484

http://shoppervalues.com/books/detail.cfm?id=0684839156

http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/bc-rs/

IMO for A/C we need early VVS, IJN, and IJAAF planes the most.

I would like to see the LW get:

FW-190A2 or A3
Bf-109G14
Tropical versions of 109's
He 111

VVS:
Lagg - 3
Mig - 3
I-16
Yak 1
Yak 9
Yak we have is pretty close to the Yak 3, I think, which was a very late war plane.

USAAF

P 39 (could be reskinned for VVS)
P38F
B24


RAF
Spit Mk VIII
Clipped wing Spit Mk V or Mk IX (tropical)
Wellington
Blenhiem
Fairy Swordfish (Stringbag would be hoot to attack CV's)

JP planes have already been covered in detail.

[Mitsu]

Originally posted by 1K3
then how can Ki-44s shot down small numbers of B-29s with just 2 12.7 and 2 7.7s? it would take them forever to down a B-29 with just mguns

The Ki-44-II had 2 Ho-301 40mm rocket cannon model on the wing.
It is the Ki-44-II-Otsu (Ki-44-II-b). 393 or less/more Ki-44-II-Otsu were produced.

[Canaris]

Karnak, it was made saw some service.  We need some more early 38s.

Hoping for the 38D for its 37mm gun.  It would make the 38 perfect for gv busting and bomber killing.  Only problem it isnt that fast.  

Canaris

[Karnak]

Canaris,

From what I've read the P-38 with the 37mm never fought.

Further, not all cannon are equal and the 37mm on the P-39/P-38D was mediocre.  Nothing like the NS-37 on the Yak-9T.

We don't need the P-38D because it saw less WWII use than the Ta152H-1.

The P-38F was the first significant model of that aircraft.