She wass only 16

[demaw1]

Newguy....did you really say ...your dislike of something doesnt make it wrong?   Nah just a typo.

 Bustr...I havent seen where anyone except gs started talking about invasion over the 16 year old.I dont think he meant we should, but by useing that as a misdirection , put grun a little more on defence.[ I think otto was tongue in check]
   I mostly agree with your post,because you are able to make a moral judgement.

 Saintaw...60 year old history is not important...
   
It is even more important now then it was then. The latest example of 60 year old history is the sudan.It is happening even as you post such goofyness. France because of europes worship of egalitarianism has vetoed any direct action against sudan for the genocide of the blacks.

 GS....you are right I believe we dont have a right to invade iran because of laws that allow such barbarism. I can make a moral judgement that our system , with its inherant problems is morally better than theirs. You and those of like mind cant. No matter how you spin it you cant.

  If so and you say different why does europe hinder action on the sudan,Where are your  troops to help? Where are frances and germanys troops? Because you would be helping people that are very very black? Or because you are in bed with the arabs? Or because your egalitarian beliefs has once again tied your hands.

I believe it is all three.So lets let europe sit on its throne again and do nothing, while another group is being wiped out.


   Opionion; THIS IS A VERY GOOD THREAD, and debate, because to those on both sides who are not blind, can see clearly the 2 choices in this world today, It is better to see clearly each side then to agree.

[Masherbrum]

"This was America both pre-WWII"  Slavery wasn't during the 1950's and 1960's.  nice try, Touche.

Next!

Karaya

[JB73]

Originally posted by GScholz
In the 1950s and '60s? Really, I did not know that.

dude you post too much





















hehehe JK bro just adding another spice of humor...1 every 2.5 pages LOL

[newguy]

Yes I did say that demaw1, though looking at it now, I may not have been clear. What I meant was, just becuase someone (in this case Grun), thinks something is inherently "wrong", does not make it so for everyone. The point being, that saying somthing is "Wrong", or bad or evil for that matter, is a very fine line to walk.

Anyway this thread has exploded since I last checked. I think its time for the picture of the challenged kid running the race.

[demaw1]

Newguy...dont agree, to me evil is easy to reconize at one time or another. Thanks for reply it was reasonable,I think this thread makes many things clear as to the differant beliefs.

[JB73]

no really, do you have carpal tunnel?

[JB73]

LOL

dude BTW .. take your mad typing hands over to this thread:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128177

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by GScholz
Please read the entire thread. I'm getting tiered of these moronic outbursts.

Saying the brutal hanging of what was probably an innocent 16 year old girl (given the Iran tendency to treat women sexually violated as the criminals) is ok because its their law is moronic.

There are basic fundemental rights and wrongs you cannot argue over. This is one of them.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by GScholz
I didn't misrepresent anything.

So why shouldn't we have invaded America when we should have invaded Germany in the 1930s and now Iran?

Quite possibly because we weren't alive then?

[Saintaw]

My way is better than yours... will use a sledgehammer to prove it...

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by GScholz
That sentence is completely meaningless. Have you been drinking?

Are stupid? You asked why "we" didn't invade Germany in the 1930's, we, as in the people here present in this thread were most likely not alive in this time period.

We are dealing with a fact in the recent past - ie present, not something 70 years ago.

Or are you trying to exptrapolate some sort of bizarre logic relating the attitudes of the people on this BBS to the in-actions of people that lived 70 years ago?

Lay off the estrogen.

[demaw1]

GS....of course I did read it , I said something about otto or did you miss it. Also the others did not say because of this 16 year old we should invade iran.

There are many reason for invading iran but i am tired of American blood saving not only europe, but the world as a whole. Lets just stay home and tell the arabs, If we are attacked by them again we will destory them as a people.

 Simple leave us alone and we will leave you alone. What part of leave alone dont any of you understand?

  AH I LOVE IT PROOF THAT NOTHING CHANGES.

 Proof that our forefathers were right.

 GS,european and liberal belief.

  It would ruin north south treaty if sudan was invaded.
It would ruin north south treaty if sudan was invaded

 What more proof does anyone need?

Treaty,another piece of paper and another million dead. Peace in our time. GIVE ME LIFE NO MATTER THE COST. europe and american liberals have no moral compass what so ever.

It is someone elses problem, but if so and so wants us there we will go.  You are sick people, a stiff necked people .I would say you all better kiss your grandkids good bye for they will suffer what you have caused.

 Dont blame anyone else here as I said this , perhaps this is to far to the right for here I dont know. I just dont understand how this is right or left.  God protect the weak, for we have another piece of paper to protect us.

[demaw1]

I have never had to get my courage from a bottle , show me where I am wrong.You said  if we invade sudan it will ruin the treaty between north and south that was 10 years in the making,I didnt.....I am telling you 100,000s are dieing now but good ole europe they got there peice treaty and another resulotion on the way. Be here any minute , as another village is burned and the guts of babies are torn out.

 And I am drunk? ha, once again a put down of someone who says history is repeating it self. Yes the secular humanist believe they are little gods unto them selves therefore another piece of paper will keep you from doing the right thing as youall compare bush to hitler. And another thousand people are killed by arabs because they are black and inferior, but europe has its paper.

 You will reap what you have sown, shoot me tomarrow it wont change the truth.

[demaw1]

I have read them well , thus the response ,I hope you all choke on your paper...You know you all are so good at bringing up links. How about one of you just one bring up a link that shows a picture of what is going on in the sudan.

 Take a close look at their eyes. Ah never mind, liberal minds can no longer comprehend such things. Besides you all are so intent on demonizing a portion of America and her military you wouldnt have time to look close. Besides you have your paper that took ten years to get.

[blkmgc]

Originally posted by wrag
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=80

 from the article
"After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”."

 Probably why they could'nt find a lawyer. Not that it mattered, they would have hung her anyways in the tradition of barbarism.

I'm with Lizking on this one.

blkmgc