Author Topic: think france will cave? (Read 1791 times)

straffo · « **Reply #75 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:10:34 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Great article, thanks Badger!

Still the French law is wrong to ban religios expression in school and public facilities.

Except in Alsace (and perhaps Lorraine) where the German law still partially apply ,there is a crucifix in each classroom and where the church a subsided by the state.

I don't think we need another anthem especially for a PC version.

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
France and germany were buying oil from Iraq during the sanctions.

Violating the sanction ?
No.

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They were dealing with Saddam to get oil dirt cheap. Even at such a low price, billions went to Saddam and his cronies every month. Not a single penny was spent on the people. [/B]

Personnally I don't care at all.
The cheaper oil the better it is.

Saintaw · « **Reply #76 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:10:44 AM »

I don't give a cr*p about nations or national anthems... Grun must think I'm a bad person now, i think i'll go weep in a corner

Straffo, please continue eating babies, *they* need someone to blame...

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #77 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:13:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
I don't give a cr*p about nations or national anthems...

So you would would be happy if belgium was absorbed by france or germany?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #78 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:17:52 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
I don't think we need another anthem especially for a PC version.

Awesome! You arent fully comfortable with the words of the anthem but respect it and wouldnt want it changed. I cant disagree with that in any way.

~~you French type person!~~

Saintaw · « **Reply #79 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:17:57 AM »

As long as it's done "economicaly" (sp?) I don't care. I've lived in different countries for all my life. The only things that attach me to Belgium are the friends I have there (and beer)... other than that, it's just a piece of land like anywhere else.

moot · « **Reply #80 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:20:01 AM »

just keep the same nationalistic thrust without the explicit call to a 'xenophobic' counter attack.

It's the same thing for every country, each has its ideals and will uphold and defend them, else why have national borders or any national identity?
It's the same as biological immune systems.
What constitutes foreign and domestic is a separate matter.

re: keeping up with the nuclear tests, what about the US withdrawing from the Kyoto environment pact, or the resumption of anti-personel mine use?

Keep in mind the spread of political and philosophical perspectives is certainly much wider in France than in the US. Consequently, just about every person living in France is in disagreement with at least a considerable part of the state the country is in.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #81 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:35:05 AM »

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Personnally I don't care at all.
The cheaper oil the better it is.

Just want everyone to see this. He's saying that it's alright for Saddam to kill millions, as long as France gets cheap oil.

Saintaw · « **Reply #82 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:36:13 AM »

lol you are a treat

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #83 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:43:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
As long as it's done "economicaly" (sp?) I don't care. I've lived in different countries for all my life. The only things that attach me to Belgium are the friends I have there (and beer)... other than that, it's just a piece of land like anywhere else.

So if Al Qaeda flew airliners into Belgioums largest buildings and devoted itself to killing belgians around the world you wouldnt be particularly upset? It would be just the same as if they did it to ghana or china or any random country. Assuming of course none of your friends were killed.

airguard · « **Reply #84 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:47:44 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So if Al Qaeda flew airliners into Belgioums largest buildings and devoted itself to killing belgians around the world you wouldnt be particularly upset? It would be just the same as if they did it to ghana or china or any random country. Assuming of course none of your friends were killed.

so I think most people in the world got upset about the twin towers happening, it was terrible.

And so it will if somone does it in Belgium,France, Norway, Sweden and so on.

Thingy is that Europe is more used to terror, war and ****e than other parts of the world and maybe got a little bit tired of it.
That does not mean we give up but think a little before action.

straffo · « **Reply #85 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:48:52 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So if Al Qaeda flew airliners into Belgioums largest buildings and devoted itself to killing belgians around the world you wouldnt be particularly upset? It would be just the same as if they did it to ghana or china or any random country. Assuming of course none of your friends were killed.

I like the comparaison between Ghana and Belgium ... afterall they both live in huts

Ps: lasersailor184 having trouble detection provocation lately ?

muhahaha

Saintaw · « **Reply #86 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:53:41 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So if Al Qaeda flew airliners into Belgioums largest buildings and devoted itself to killing belgians around the world you wouldnt be particularly upset? It would be just the same as if they did it to ghana or china or any random country. Assuming of course none of your friends were killed.

Yes/No

I was apaled when it happend in NYC, because of the human lives lost, not because they were american, portugese or vanuatuese.

Stringer · « **Reply #87 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:54:28 AM »

I thought this was a post about cool caves in France. I should have known better.

I've seen Saw drink beer, and I can confirm that he likes Belgium beer. But I must also confirm that he is a lightweight and I had to carry him around Brussels!!

Straffo may very well eat babies, but I can't confirm that, as his better half wouldn't let him come to Brussels to drink beer with us!!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #88 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:54:35 AM »

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Originally posted by airguard
so I think most people in the world got upset about the twin towers happening, it was terrible.

And so it will if somone does it in Belgium,France, Norway, Sweden and so on.

Thingy is that Europe is more used to terror, war and ****e than other parts of the world and maybe got a little bit tired of it.
That does not mean we give up but think a little before action.

True. But its obvious that a random citizen of New York is likely to take 911 more personally than a random citizen of Antwerp. Thats what I was getting at in my question to saw.

Saintaw · « **Reply #89 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:57:29 AM »

Stringer... you git lol!
Get my "lightweight" word for granted: You "will" stagger back to your hotel next time

Grun, yes, I can agree with that, however you should not think that because this happened in NYC that poeple around the world were not affected by it. I still shiver when I think about some images we all saw. i think most of us do.