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« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2004, 03:15:32 PM »
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Ohoh, here we go again....

 


Sounds like a Ronnie statement Sab:)

I made the 9/11 comment because of Cheney:

"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States," Cheney told about 350 supporters at a town-hall meeting in this Iowa city.

If Kerry were elected, Cheney said the nation risks falling back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that terrorist attacks are criminal acts that require a reactive approach. Instead, he said Bush's offensive approach works to root out terrorists where they plan and train, and pressure countries that harbor terrorists.

The admin cant have it both ways:) They had evidence that an attack was imminent. It happened anyway. Im not saying they could have prevented it but saying Kerry will bring an attack is ludicrous.

                     

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« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2004, 03:18:08 PM »
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Once again no solution.

I implied that YOU don't know one way or another if 911 could have been prevented.

I don't know the facts Bush had anymore than you do so I can't say if it could or couldn't have been prevented.

BTW Kerry didn't stop the attack either so should we blame him?


If he were president, absolutly!

Do I know it could have been prevented? No, I do not know it could have been, but I refuse to believe stopping it was an impossibility had something other than nothing been done. You see, unlike others here I am not judging 9/11 on party lines. I am saying nothing was done when something, anything, should have been done. Any attack on any country ultimatly is the responsibility of the people or peoples in charge.. To make the accusation that Bush is not responsible for 9/11 is crazy. Responsible in the idea that Bush orcistrated 9/11, no way! Responsible in the fact that he was the sitting president and his country was attacked while he had advanced warning and failed to even attempt to act... I am saying nothing more, nothing less..

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« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2004, 03:19:15 PM »
Kappa do you support the Patriot Act?

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« Reply #108 on: September 10, 2004, 03:20:39 PM »
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Well what do you think could have been done to in August 2001 to stop 911 based on the vague memo:

Bin Laden Determined to Strike in USA..

If you are criticizing bush on the assumption that nothing was done you must have some idea that something could have been done based on that info to prevent 911 during august 2001.

What is that?

Well for one he could have gone after Bin Laden. It seems to me that many righties on the bb's have criticized Clinton for not doing that during his terms.

So why is it that you arent saying Bush should have done just that?
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« Reply #109 on: September 10, 2004, 03:23:03 PM »
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To do so every time you received a vauge message like that one, would keep the American people in a state of panic. Is that the kind of life you want to lead. .


THat is exactly what the admin does now with its color coded warning system.
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« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2004, 03:27:54 PM »
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Well for one he could have gone after Bin Laden. It seems to me that many righties on the bb's have criticized Clinton for not doing that during his terms.

So why is it that you arent saying Bush should have done just that?


You mean preemptively invade another country before 911 based on a small amout of info in this memo?  And a country vital to US oil and energy companies like UNOCAL? Oh the conspiracy nuts that would bring out...  

Im not buying that argument from you Silat any more than I would from Kappa...
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« Reply #111 on: September 10, 2004, 03:29:36 PM »
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THat is exactly what the admin does now with its color coded warning system.


And yiu are unhappy because? I mean he is doing something with every little vague and unspecific memo..  By the tone of your post youi dont seem to like that at all..  

Guess what I dont buy this from you either...

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« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2004, 03:34:20 PM »
Understand Silat, we were suppose to do nothing. We were suppose to sit by and wait for our country folk to die. Does it matter we were pre-warned? Does it matter our government failed to act? Does it matter our government failed to warn the general public? Of course not.. Our government was suppose to do nothing more than sit idly by and watch it's citizens die. Dont you see all the justification for our rooftop fiddling government in this thread? Clearly it was there destiny to die and nothing could have changed that. So no one is to blame except maybe Clinton..

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« Reply #113 on: September 10, 2004, 03:35:52 PM »
Kappa would have saved us!

But hey I'm sure you guys will support bush the next time he preemptively invades another country based on the slightest threat intelligence...

Hey lets have a BS check Silat and Kappa..

Did you guys support the Iraq invasion?

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« Reply #114 on: September 10, 2004, 03:36:02 PM »
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THat is exactly what the admin does now with its color coded warning system.


And agian, the lack of reading comprehesion does not allow some of us to understand the context in which you posted this..

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« Reply #115 on: September 10, 2004, 03:39:27 PM »
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Excuses Excuses Excuses......

What did our President do UPON receiving the Oct. 6 PDB memo???????????



WHAT DID HE DO????



Dude, he's got a staff. He probably delegated it.
What you want him to do, go to every airport and inspect the passengers,     we don't even do that now,
Want him to go to southern boarder and stop illegals’, we don't do it now,
Want him to inspect every cargo container; we don't even do it now.
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« Reply #116 on: September 10, 2004, 03:40:59 PM »
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And agian, the lack of reading comprehesion does not allow some of us to understand the context in which you posted this..


So even now, with the hindsight of 911 you beive that Bush terror warnings on threat memos are evil mass mind control ala 1984..

But you imply that you would support and want such a warning based on the vague 2001 memo... All before 911..

Right...  

And you know what I think of the context under which you post stuff like this Kappa...

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« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2004, 04:00:45 PM »
Sorry but to make the accusation that Bush IS responsible for 9/11 is crazy!

I can throw a note on his desk that says "bomb go boom" and if he does nothing and I bomb something does that make him responisible?

What was he supposed to do give a warning to everyone? What would he say? "We think some bad people may do something bad somewhere so watch out"?

Hell saying Bush was responisble for 911 is like saying F/911 was a documentary.  

Some retards may believe it but it doesn't make it true.
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« Reply #118 on: September 10, 2004, 05:56:43 PM »
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You mean preemptively invade another country before 911 based on a small amout of info in this memo?  And a country vital to US oil and energy companies like UNOCAL? Oh the conspiracy nuts that would bring out...  

Im not buying that argument from you Silat any more than I would from Kappa...


No.
I meant what is good for the goose is good for the gander Grun. Fair and balanced...
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« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2004, 05:57:40 PM »
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And yiu are unhappy because? I mean he is doing something with every little vague and unspecific memo..  By the tone of your post youi dont seem to like that at all..  

Guess what I dont buy this from you either...


Wow!! I didnt say I was unhappy.
Talk about changing the message.
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