ki84 speed????

[Karnak]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
you guys just got this plane, got to get used to it before you can really compare it,
have all of you perfected flying it in less than an hour and a half?

It has nothing to do with that.  It has to do with the fact they they've modeled it as being no faster than the N1K2-J.

Why should I even worry about it at this point as it does nothing to mitigate the problems I have been having with AH2?  Speed is so very required that my preffered ride is now a slow assed death trap and I was looking for an upgrade.  At 324mph the Ki-84 is not it, no matter how well in handles.

[Pyro]

Crap, found the problem.  It's not making full power.  Argh.

[moot]

Feels like the 152 release all over again, this 84 is pretty underwhelming, besides the flapped maneuvering.

Yeah Pyro was having a go with it and watching the airspeed needle as it dove and zoomed I thought something was amiss with either it or my brain  
 
"wtf.... 375mph for just that long??"  hehe

[Westy]

""Crap, found the problem. It's not making full power. Argh. --Pyro"


followed three posts later by......




The Ki84 should be the scourge of the skies, faster than a pony at all altitudes. If what I'm reading is true then I guess the allied aircraft being favored theory holds up yet again. Do we still have the rediculous auto retracting flaps in all aircraft?? --- Storch"



Too late!

You're such a stump.  I can't let you walk away from yet another stupendous display of putting your foot in your mouth.

[oboe]

Karnak, what were expecting for a max deck speed for the Ki.84?
I don't have specs that go into that much detail.

Anyone try to find it's max speed at alt?   I take it everyone's fears/hopes of a 400+ mph Hayate are dashed, and it may not even reach the 388-392 mph range?

Pyro did suggest something is amiss, so I'm anxious to see the result of his digging.  

Curious about the lack of WEP though.   I thought that deficiency was limited to bombers and very early War fighters.
 
It's guns seemed potent to me, and the fowler flap animation is  cool.   As is the default skin.    Lots of things to like about it, but we really need a fast Japanese plane that can compete in the MA.    Ki.84 was our best shot.     Hope its a fluke that gets corrected.

[Charon]

The captured Wright Field example did 363 mph at sea level. Now it used higher octane fuel, but...

Would that generate a full 40 mph difference? It seems as if the worst data set was chosen here, and one that is hard to extrapolate with the Wright Field tests even if it was the best made, most polished Ki-84 of the war.

Charon

[Zanth]

Originally posted by oboe
Curious about the lack of WEP though.   I thought that deficiency was limited to bombers and very early War fighters.
 
 

Just a guess here - but in AH if you arent at full throttle wep doesn't work.  Given what pyro typed I am thinking that is why no useable wep (yet).

[oboe]

Good thought Zanth.  You're probably right.

[Drano]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Sounds like Spit fodder to me.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

Bastid!:rofl

     Drano

[Pongo]

Karnak.
dont be a weenie. Wing up and lets kill some puppies.

[Kaz]

At 20.3k it was doing 369mph. Yeah I had to test it so 388 'may' be possible....

[Karnak]

Oboe,

I was hoping that it would be faster than the Mosquito.

Pongo,

We'll see.  I'll be home around 5:30 PST and will download it then.  Hopefully a quick patch will be out as well to give it HTC's intended performance.

I am disapointed that it seems to be based on the performance of the first prototype which was not representative of the production Ki-84s at all.

[Wurger]

Originally posted by Karnak
To be honest, my account was riding on this, so I am rather disappointed by the extremely poor performance that HTC picked for the Ki-84.  With that speed I don't see how it can be anything but a poorer armed N1K2-J.

The MA demands a reasonably fast airplane with fuel range now and the P-51 just doesn't do anything for me.  The prevalence of extremely fast late war aircraft really is pushing me to either start flying the La-7, which I hate, or leave.  I was hoping that the Ki-84 would be fast enough to cut some of the edge off the La-7 while still being fun to fly.  That is not to be.

I'll try it out tonight, but it doesn't look good for the future of my account.

So HTC should just model a plane's performance on what you think it should be so that you'll keep your account?    See ya...

Bazi

[humble]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
you guys just got this plane, got to get used to it before you can really compare it,
have all of you perfected flying it in less than an hour and a half?

TC....

I've been around for long enough to have a feel for what a plane can do...I hopped into the Ki-61 cold and flew it for most of the last couple weeks. I'm certainly not an uberstick but I'm good enough to handle just about everybody I ran across in anything less than a gangbang (with a few notable exceptions:))...obviously you wont get dialed in immediately but this plane is underpowered and has modest handling at best. It's clearly inferior to the Ki-61/205/F6F. Truthfully its inferior to the P40-b IMO and the 202 will eat it alive accept for hitting power. I'd say its about even with the a2 zeke but with much worse handling...

[humble]

obviously if it's not generating full power things might change a bit. As for low speed handling...even with flaps I didnt get any feel that it was even on par with Ki-61 or F6 let alone a spit or nikki....hopefully better power curve will help things out...