Author Topic: No room for scroungers in Americas Army (Read 868 times)

Crumpp · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:12:43 PM »

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Thats war isn't it?

Everything up until lying about the trucks is completely kosher.

I am a soldier in the US Army in combat arms. These guys got what they deserve.

Crumpp

Pongo · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:24:20 PM »

Not that I can see. They didnt sell or destroy the trucks. They seem to have salvaged them. But your the expert.

Martlet · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:28:14 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Half the US army from ww2 should have been jailed....

I'd be in jail.

Crumpp · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:37:40 PM »

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Not that I can see. They didnt sell or destroy the trucks.

There has to be something not printed in this story, Pongo.

I believe they did destroy the trucks. It's not clear in the story but that is what the Army charged them with. I don't see that charge being levied if the trucks simply had the bumper numbers removed.

If they were tried by Court Martial and took a Jury then they have undergone IMO one of the fairest trials you can get.

Crumpp

Raubvogel · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:15:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp

If they were tried by Court Martial and took a Jury then they have undergone IMO one of the fairest trials you can get.

Crumpp

HA! Obviously you aren't very familiar with the military justice system.

Mini D · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:18:53 PM »

Oooooo... more arguments on news articles that appear to have less than a complete set of facts. YOU GO BOYS!

SOB · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:28:30 PM »

Screw you, Nazi # 2!!!

Crumpp · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:33:09 PM »

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HA! Obviously you aren't very familiar with the military justice system.

Umm You might want to talk to my wife about that.

She was with me when I pushed an issue I was right on, all the way to a Court Martial after being falsely accused. Rather than accept Non-judicial punishment (Art 15) I went for the big bucks. Took 3 days at trial with a Jury. In the end Justice prevailed. Not only was I "Not Guilty" but the Command went after the crooked officer who lied to get out of trouble.

He WAS my commander. I think his favourite line now is "Would you like an apple pie with your purchase, Mam?"

Crumpp

Russian · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2004, 08:01:52 PM »

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They destroyed it. They did the enemy's job. ... Those trucks could be used for other units."

WTF do you destroy your own vehicles?

wombatt · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2004, 10:31:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp
Umm You might want to talk to my wife about that.

She was with me when I pushed an issue I was right on, all the way to a Court Martial after being falsely accused. Rather than accept Non-judicial punishment (Art 15) I went for the big bucks. Took 3 days at trial with a Jury. In the end Justice prevailed. Not only was I "Not Guilty" but the Command went after the crooked officer who lied to get out of trouble.

He WAS my commander. I think his favourite line now is "Would you like an apple pie with your purchase, Mam?"

Crumpp

Hey I say that movie:rolleyes:

Engine · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2004, 03:02:07 AM »

That was JAG episode #42. And #39. And #2. And #4 - #201.

Crumpp · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2004, 03:42:55 AM »

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Hey I say that movie

LOL

I only wish. It was an intense few months and really put my family through hell.

Crumpp

Pongo · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2004, 10:35:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Oooooo... more arguments on news articles that appear to have less than a complete set of facts. YOU GO BOYS!

more babble by someone who doenst want to participate in the discussion but really wants to see his name in lights.

crump..
"Instead of taking the trucks back to their rightful owners, the first thing was erasing the identity marks and dumping them off at bases," Wicker said. "They destroyed it. They did the enemy's job. ... Those trucks could be used for other units."
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Ya this is the worst paragraph in the history of reporting.
what did happen? It seems to say that they changed the markings and dumped them off at bases..but the CO seems to be saying they destroyed the vehicles.

What I take from the article is that they didnt destroy the vehicles. They were not charged with destroying them. They didnt return them which thier CO interperates as the same as destroying them.

The only one I see doing the enemies work is the CO. But big supprise.

Hawklore · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2004, 12:00:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Engine
Seems the Army is primarily concerned with them erasing identification numbers and trying to cover it up more than the scrounging itself.

Yeah...

Gotta read the whole article, they weren't punished for usingthem, they were punished for erasing the military markings, and covering up that they used them..

Mini D · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2004, 12:57:33 PM »

You have me pegged pongo.

Of course, it isn't nearly as glamorous to quote a fact devoid news article and issue scathing diatribe based on it. You should move to the U.S. You'd make a great democrat.