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Offline lada

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« Reply #165 on: January 17, 2005, 05:16:35 PM »
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What... you want that we should have supported Hitler?


You supported someone who was probably worster.

Thats funny how americans still try to "hire"someone for dirty job. no matter what, his puppy always turn agains them.

Us supported Stalin... Later stalin showed them a hell.
Us supported SH.. later SH showed them finger.
US supported Taliban and Al quaida and so on...

But basicaly you still belive that there is nothing wrong about that and there is no blood on your hands....

oh well.

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« Reply #166 on: January 17, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
didn't the entire world of allies "support" stalin?   Your choices were Hitler or stalin or be a bank for the world and make a fortune by not taking a stand and hoping the good guys won.... but not too soon.,,

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« Reply #167 on: January 17, 2005, 06:15:46 PM »
I think on that day and age information didn't flow quite as freely as it does today.

Therefore most of the world was happily unaware of the attrocitioes committed by both parties as far as internal affairs were the case.

Today many people confuse what they read from the history books to what people actually knew those days. They were making history, living it, not examining the facts in one package.

For sure not even all Germans knew exactly what was going on behind the gates, even though separation was naturally obvious to anyone. However they didn't have internet, tv or quite often even a radioset for information. Secluded places were just that, secluded. Heck there are still villages in Russia with no electricity or running water. Many of them.

The alliances were based on political needs, no questions asked. Would the ally with Stalin had they known how he was? Surely. However I seriously doubt anyone knew, then.

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« Reply #168 on: January 18, 2005, 12:24:42 AM »
You guys are all funny :)

If only I had an internet connection at my desk at work, the day would go by a lot quicker.
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« Reply #169 on: January 18, 2005, 02:52:07 AM »
Iraq will no longer be called Iraq, but will be addressed by it's new name: Pandora's Box.
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« Reply #170 on: January 18, 2005, 04:22:54 AM »
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If only I had an internet connection at my desk at work, the day would go by a lot quicker.


Huh? No net?

What's your profession?

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« Reply #171 on: January 18, 2005, 08:20:59 AM »
It’s all really simple.

There are civilized countries in the world. And there are uncivilized ones.

A civilized country is one that has the ability to wipe his enemies off the face of the earth and does not do so. He uses force in limited means and even in ways that can be quite expensive and painful to him in the short term, but that history will judge as limited and prudent. A civilized country tries to spare the civilians of an enemy from harm by not using indiscriminant bombing for example. They learn from their mistakes. Of course they can retaliate in kind if they have to, as a means of discouraging this tactic being used against them.

The USA is civilized. Russia is civilized and even China is. I think Russia and China would have been more uncivilized if they thought that the USA would allow it but they have evolved into good neighbors who may differ in opinion somewhat.

Israel is civilized. Each year they are subjected to heinious atrocities committed against their civilians in the form of bombings and rocket attacks that specifically target innocents. They have been invaded and attacked but they still desire peaceful relations with their neighbors. They do what they have to to survive but even though they have had the means to wipe out any one of their neighbors since the late 60's they have never attempted to, nor overthrow a hostile government. Despite the annual carnage of women, children and innocent males all killed by nail bombs and suicide bombings.

They live in peace with Egypt and have honored their peace treaties with that country.

Basically any country that supports the war against Israel is uncivilized. That includes most of the Middle East. It is easy to say this because their tactics are to kill any Jew regardless of whether they are a soldier or civilian. There is no room for Israelis in their world. There only solution in genocide. They praise the deeds of Hitler and even Osama Bin Laden (but carefully so as not to alienate their European friends).

The people who justify such atrocities are also uncivilized. Including the idiots who post here. There is no justification for the war against Israel. History gives no moral justification for such actions. The Arabs do not have moral right to the lands they lost in war and politics. For if they do then you can go farther and farther back into history and claim that all land is historically owned by those who came before, and the lands of Israel have been governed by a multitude of civilizations thoughout history. If the Arabs have a right to the west bank, then you can claim that all land won in war should be given back to the defeated, as those who won such land have no claim to it. And we know what that would do to the map of the world.

I feel good knowing that no mater how much bile the Euro trash weenies spew in this forum and their leaders spew in the world, they will never have a hope in hell of changing my opinion. Because civilized people recognize uncivilized louts a mile away. And we tend to avoid them. They have always existed and always will. There is nothing glamorous or proud or noble about them. They are uncouth and ignorant. Easily mislead and hard to reason with. And they are wrong.

The war in Iraq was simply a another move in the game to reform, contain or destroy the most uncivilized of the world's governments.

Salute to all my American friends. Keep up the good fight.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2005, 09:17:15 PM by Habu »

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« Reply #172 on: January 18, 2005, 08:29:42 AM »
Ya know what... I think that was very well said habu.

the only friends we have in the middle east are the jews.   The rest can't be civilized probly in our lifetime but they can be tamed because it has been probven that they understand force..  Iraq was a good starting point and it all had to be done sometime.

the euro trash anti semites want to throw the jews to the wolves and suck up to the petroleum money in weapons systems and such.... they have a vested interest in keeping the middle east as barbaric as possible.

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« Reply #173 on: January 18, 2005, 08:41:49 AM »
You're just incredible lazs :lol

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« Reply #174 on: January 18, 2005, 09:10:41 AM »
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Lets not forget that DudeTheVant is also one of our most notable AH BBS whacky 911 internet conspiracy theory belivers and genera advocates.  So I'm not surprised that he also belives in Saddam's word and his good intentions. What a neat character he ism  arent you Kappa? :)


Damn straight I am..  I believe in many possibilities..  But I didnt believe SH about anything but the weapons.. Cry as you guys might.. Yall were wrong.. Yall are wrong.. Yall will continue to be wrong as long as you believe he was a threat to the US or our allies in anyway what so ever.. But really nice attempt at a stab there naziboy..  I understand this is prolly your best work.. But I will still give you marginal credit.. lmao

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« Reply #175 on: January 18, 2005, 09:26:34 AM »
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You're just incredible lazs :lol


Of course the companions of uncivilized governments are the corrupt powers who court their favors for petro dollars.

How is Chriac these days? Still staying in power to avoid the corruption charges against him?

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« Reply #176 on: January 18, 2005, 10:07:34 AM »
What charges ?


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« Reply #178 on: January 18, 2005, 11:53:36 AM »
Wow ,I'm impressed new informations having only 3 years :p

Plus it still don't change the fact that Chirac is not under any charge actually nor he was in the past.

And lastly now that Eric Halphen is "officialy" a socialist*  it's pretty easy to see it was just a politcaly  "coup" by Halphen.
 


* in fact it's worst than socialims he is "chevènementiste"

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« Reply #179 on: January 18, 2005, 12:00:40 PM »
This is probably the most Intelligent post ever vs all others here:

quote Eric Clapton: daddaaaaa daaddddaa dooodddyy doooo,,,,,, ugh_ugh_ugh_ lalalallalalall loooooo--------- dadda ddda dda dooo ugh_ugh_ugh loooooo

thats pretty much it :D

so if anyone come up with more intelligent answers that would fit my head good. :)
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