Make Iran Make the 1st Move

[Elfie]

U.S. policy toward Iran on this subject is firm. The regime must end its support of international terrorism. Iran is the most active state sponsor of terrorism. Its Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and Ministry of Intelligence and Security continue to be involved in the planning and support of terrorist acts and continue to support a variety of groups that use terrorism to pursue their goals. Iran's support includes funding, providing safe haven, training, and weapons to a wide variety of terrorist groups including Lebanese Hizballah, HAMAS, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Liberation Front for Palestine-General Command. Its support of HAMAS and Palestinian Islamic Jihad is of particular concern, as both groups continue their deliberate policies of attacking Israeli citizens with suicide bombings.

http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rm/24494.htm

[beet1e]

You tell 'em, Gramps! :cool:

[Elfie]

Gramps?  I am still not used to that!

[Elfie]

I also found this in my Google search for Hamas funding.

http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1062618980.php

Europe appears to be funding them as well.

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/research_topics/research_topics_show.htm?doc_id=191951&attrib_id=7777


Where does Hamas' money come from? Much of Hamas' funding comes from Palestinian expatriates, as well as from private donors in Saudi Arabia and other oil-rich Persian Gulf states. Iran also provides significant support, which some diplomats say could amount to between $20-$30 million per year. Moreover, some Muslim charities in the United States, Canada, and Western Europe funnel money into Hamas-backed social service groups.

Just cut/pasted that part of the article. Whoever wrote that article didnt use paragraphs, so it's kind of a chore to read.

I agree wholeheartedly with the social service side of Hamas, that is an awesome example of people trying to help themselves. Hamas does have a *military wing* that has accounted for many terrorist attacks.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada
Ahh poor brainwashed boy.

here are some hints for you

 few more




But im sure that all of that is BS, since you did hear on TV that Iran is full of islamist terrorist with mission goal to annihilate US and Israel....


But you are total noob and you have no balls to visit iran and ask Iranian Jewish hows the life in iran.

If you need more milk, just call you mummy


here is another wide spread religion in Iran zoroastrianism

 

I can imagine that it doesnt suite to Israeli/US politics, that In Iran you can go to the dinner with Muslims, Jews, Catholics atheist at once and nobody want to kill anybody.....


Come on show me that you arent an ******* im going to iran in 6 months or so for my 3rd time.... come with me i will take you around. And you can buy carpet with mickey mouse

This is laughable....

Religions:  
Shi'a Muslim 89%, Sunni Muslim 9%, Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i 2%  

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html#People

I cant take you into the ghetto because I have friends there and you wont get killed or robbed but you go by yourself your gonna have a bad time. I.E i can show you what I want you to see but not the reallity of the situation.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada
here is what  Hamas  is

And now be so kind and  explain me, whitch political party is terrorist organization and whitch political party isnt terrorist organization.... or how to determine it.

thx

Simple...Once the target of an attack becomes civilians.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by beet1e
R179 - you would need to have been in at the ground floor of these gun threads to understand what I'm saying to NUKE.

rgr that sorry

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada



Btw how is it related to fact, that in Iran all religion groups live in peace and in small israel and palestine they cant ?

See the link I posted on numbers of these other groups. They are sucha minority no one pays them any mind.

[lada]

Originally posted by Raider179
This is laughable....

Religions:  
Shi'a Muslim 89%, Sunni Muslim 9%, Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i 2%  

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html#People

I cant take you into the ghetto because I have friends there and you wont get killed or robbed but you go by yourself your gonna have a bad time. I.E i can show you what I want you to see but not the reallity of the situation.

What are you talking about ?
Ghetos in Iran ? ehhh ? Must be some super information by CIA ? Some links?

Last time i were in Iran i meet Zoroastrians, Jews, Christian & 1 Baha'i guy from Singapor.

I dont know what is laughable about that ... i just wanted to show, that people of other religion live there w/o problems.

What exactly did you mean ?

[Raider179]

my point was that there isnt a very large population of these other groups and in fact they are so small they are negligable. Even Iraq had catholics and christians in small numbers. The ghetto reference is saying that you being able to travel safely there is one thing, me being able to do it is another.

[lada]

Originally posted by Raider179
my point was that there isnt a very large population of these other groups and in fact they are so small they are negligable. Even Iraq had catholics and christians in small numbers. The ghetto reference is saying that you being able to travel safely there is one thing, me being able to do it is another.

ahh ok so you basicaly agree that in Iran people are free regarding religion and they do not have any problems with other people regarding religion .. ?

[RedTop]

This thread...And I have read it all is unreal.

Man there are some serious haters of the U.S. on this BBS. This thread shows some of it. It combined with other threads that some of you have been in , make me ask why in the world you even participate here.

Some of you here need to start a BBS of Amerihating People of the World who want it nuked to oblivion.

Some of what I have read here is simply revolting.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada
ahh ok so you basicaly agree that in Iran people are free regarding religion and they do not have any problems with other people regarding religion .. ?

Biggest crock I have seen in awhile. Helll no.

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/august/ateqeh_executed_27804.shtml

Hanging a 16 year old for being un-islamic.

PARIS, 27 Aug. (IPS) Iranians and international community expressed outrage at reported execution of the 16-year-old Ateqeh Rajabi on vague charges of un-Islamic behaviour

Beating a 15 year old for breaking ramadan fast

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/001327.html

Here is some good reading for you

http://www.hrw.org/reports/1997/iran/Iran-05.htm#P209_34007.%20

"Information on the treatment of Jews in Iran is difficult to gather, owing in part to the apparent preference of community leaders not to publicize instances of mistreatment, if and when they occur. The organized community tends to publicly voice support for government policies, for example in denouncing Israel. "

jews hating Isreal no wonder they let them stay. The rest of that HRW article goes on to say how all of the minorities are mistreated some more severely than others. great bunch of people you are defending. Real freedom of religion kinda people unless you dont do it their way. Then its a hanging or beating.

[lada]

Originally posted by Raider179

jews hating Isreal no wonder they let them stay. The rest of that HRW article goes on to say how all of the minorities are mistreated some more severely than others. great bunch of people you are defending. Real freedom of religion kinda people unless you dont do it their way. Then its a hanging or beating.

yeah .. typical american, he read 3 www and he know everything.

From the link regarding execution, you could note, that even local people protested. True is that in most sutch cases family doesnt back their children. The one who were "vicim" of the crime of somebody else in iran have some sort of power regarding his punishment.
And its quite common that


For example. One of my friend (a girl from Yazd) were harashed on the street by some boy. In 2 days police bring 3 guys, she identify one of them. Then they simply ask hew, how should they punish him.

He went to the jail for several days, as she suggested.

Thanks for link, but i suggest you to visit iran. May be you will be surprised, that Iranian jews doesn agree with israeli politics or iranian muslim do not consider their liders to be a muslims.

every event like execution w/o clear reason or proving guilty is another knife to the back of guardian council.

But you are probably to cool to check hows reality works.

Since 10 years ago prostitution were subject of dead penality, today prostitution in Tehran is just subject of little fine.

One thing is what happen there
second thing is whats public opinion
third thing is, where does iranian want to go.

i guess you have no clie about No.2&3

But fell free to judge and if you will have balls to go to Iran, let me, i will join you.

[Rasker]

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