High Angle shooting

[Andy Bush]

Eye

Congrats on all that success...you are indeed a lucky man.

And thanks also for that post. At least somewhere in there you had one thing right.

See you around.

Andy

[Beurling]

Keep working at the game bud with all your real life skill i bet your a terror here.

When i think of some one who has all your credentials i bet you must really be good.

Who are you Citabria Aper leonid? Thats my short list of guys who have impressed me. Mitsu too.

Some one else?

When you kill me or are killed by me please refer to this thread. Ok so i know who you are. Im sure you must be one of the best here.

Btw i know in superior snobbish state you dont realize that telling me i dont understand how to shoot here is like slapping me in the face.

You layed down the gauntlet not me.

EYE

[Beurling]

Ive just read the last 25 posts you have made.

Im sorry i picked on you.
Flying a jet for real is very different than
playing AH.

I have read by your posts that you are honestly trying to learn this game.

I thought you must be one of the top players
here for sure.
I was wrong. Its not nice to lampoon someone who is makeing a effort to improve.
Im sorry.

Good luck

EYE

If you ever want to learn how to kill and land them look me up i will help you out.

[Andy Bush]

Thanks, Eye!

I need some help and I may take you up on the offer.

BTW...if you ever want some help with flying fighters...you know...like for real...then look me up and I will help you out.

Andy

[Beurling]

I never was interested in jets.
Thx anyways.

I love  ww2 or 1 fighters.

Missles ruined all the fun

You should take me up though on the offer.
Flying a plane well is only half the game.

Tactics are what sets a good player apart from the rest.

EYE

[Minotaur]

Andy;

I would like help flying real jets.  How about you hook me up for some F-4 training to start with, and then lets move straight up to the F-18.

Sound like a plan?  

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew

"Best is the trash talk. Severly and viciously going after your enemies, their mothers, and their shabby sheep."
StSanta

[Andy Bush]

Mino

Grab your g suit and let's hit it!

Andy

[54Ed]

 

BTW...if you ever want some help with flying fighters...you know...like for real...then look me up and I will help you out.

Andy, I will be showing up at your doorstep tomorrow!  

[BaneX]

Ok here's my two cents for what its worth..

I fly the 51 all the time and rarely use any of the other planes. I do fly BnZ myself and when attacking I try to avoid shooting at planes if they are under my nose. I will usually pull up a little or and roll over in a kind of lag turn and loko for the better shot. Patience is the key here.. my convergence on any plane is 300 for all guns. Eventually you will get a sort of fell for where the plane is under your nose when turning, but I don't recommend shooting. Take your time and get the shot when they are in fornt and you can see them.

Hope that made some sort of sense.

Bane
13th TAS

[funked]

Andy:

What you said about the cone of fire is absolutely correct in AH.

In fact the dispersion is so large that convergence has a lot less importance than most people would expect.  You can set your convergence to 600 yards and some of the bullets will still cross over at 250-300 yards.  I.e. the cone angles are so large that the cones intersect at a much shorter distance than your convergence setting.

One thing:  I think the convergence does indeed have an effect on elevation.  I have not done any kind of precise testing, but long convergence settings sure seem to throw the bullets higher.

Eye:  I thought you quit.  Too bad.

[Andy Bush]

funked

Thanks for the backup!

I'm not sure about the elevation of the gun lines either. It may well be that HTC has thrown in a correction for the longer convergence ranges...who knows?!

Your point about the size of the dispersion areas is right on the money. I don't think most of the folks here really completely understand the convergence issue.

It would be nice to see what dispersion values HTC has used in AH. It may be that they have not used any! If so, then we truly have those 'laser beam' gun lines that some think of. Otherwise, the convergence question is really hard to get a handle on until we know just what the projectile behavior is.

In the past, someone did some dispersion drawings to show the situation...don't know what happened to them.

Andy

[Andy Bush]

I found that convergence reference. Here it is:
 http://www.cris.com/~reaper/gunnery/gunnery.html

Please use this for basic info only. I am not saying his computations or values are correct, but the general concepts are OK. At the bottom of the page are links to some decent pictures that show dispersion over various ranges.

Andy  

[Beurling]

Funked = scrub

[Beurling]

Another superstar who does not fly under his name lol.
300 max convergence in this game is the way to go.

You guys can talk real life all you want in AH 300 is better for turning shots.All guns set to the same range.

It gives you a sweet spot at 350 too on straight shots.

Shooting farther is a waste.

Unless you are in a 1c or a 51.Or you have no other choice for the kill. Its a waste of ammo.

Dsl or cable also helps alot compared to a 56k modem.

Fewer warps = better shooting %

Btw funked i dont ever remember having a prob with you.

In fact i haven't had a prob with anyone in AH.Ive made a point to stay out of arguments.

Even old Andy who wont tell what name he flies under i would not classify as a argument.

He just made the mistake of telling me i dont understand how to shoot here.

Which is rude.

EYE

You treat me rude in a post you will get it back.

[Beurling]

It took me awhile but i found it.

You fly under funked up?

If so your not a scrub your ok.

EYE