The Russians are coming.....

[mars01]

I say perk all the late war rides, maybe 5 perks a piece.  It might cut down on the HO morons too.

Only problem tho is it will make an already timid crowd (most late war rides ) even more timid.

[humble]

Originally posted by 6GunUSMC
What if - The Russian planes weren't modeled according to Kremlin Propaganda/Data???  The La's had poor imitations of German engines in them in reality... plus with the stubby wings I am sure it was fast straight and level, but if it turned I imagine it was much like the famed "GeeBee".

You couldnt be more wrong, the la-7 was legitimately one of the stellar birds of the war. As mentioned elsewhere (different thread) late in the war a group of ponies bounced an la-7 in romania (thinking it was a 190). Russian pilot let them make four passes hoping they'd get an ID...then shot two of them down.

The russians (and italians) had some of the best fighter designs of the war....

[Tilt]

Originally posted by 6GunUSMC
What if - The Russian planes weren't modeled according to Kremlin Propaganda/Data???  The La's had poor imitations of German engines in them in reality...  

BS

They are modelled on accurate data..........very well modelled infact..........and the Ash82 was based upon an American engine.


La7 is a fun plane, I like it I have fun in it ....................as I do in a La5 and (less often recently) a Yak..............

some players  may have migrated to the best nonperked runner/cherry picker/"whatever some other players dont like" ride and they always will where ever the line is drawn.

and there will always be some arguement to draw the line somewhere else

It is annoying to be in a 1 v 1 and struggle for the advantage to have it removed by a cherry picker..............that cherry picker could have flown any plane...........how would another type than the La7 make it less annoying.

West Coast US players must love the La7 because in the time zones I play in I see plenty of La7's but never in the quantities I see Spitfires or FW's.

[Angus]

Against the Russkies....109 is very good.

109F or G2, for the La's and Yak's will willingly try to turn with a 109, and the 109 turns similarly and climbs very well.
(Tey usually think it's a G-10, - but they would not know that one either)
 The 109 also shoots much better than a Yak, and the 109G is better at range than the La.
So, see a hoarde of red-stars, up ye go in various Messers, my best advice.

[Urchin]

Yea, the G-10 is just about an El-gay lite... it does everything almost as well as the El gay does.

[wetrat]

yak9u's are tough little buggers. LA's are cannon fodder if you're in the right plane (a p38 or 109F/G2 the G10 is a good match for an LA7, but only one at a time)

[1K3]

Originally posted by Tilt
BS

They are modelled on accurate data..........very well modelled infact..........and the Ash82 was based upon an American engine.

lol Ash82 is based on a straight and quick copy of the 190 radial engine (BMW 801) NOT American

the only powerfull engine the US had is the prat 'n whitney R-2800 (very big compare to ash's)

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I see you've met the typical Tempest, KI84, and LA7 etc., pilot.  AKA the leaders of the REAL horde. Those who can only fly planes with serious a serious speed advantage or cannons, or both, fly in packs, and cherry pick as a main tactic, with the HO shot as their "big move".

Oh yeah, you sure know what you're talking about.  Tempests are alllll over the place.

That Ki-84 is just soooo fast and has such great firepower.


This from a guy who chooses one of the most overmodeled fighters to fly and then has the gall to whine endlessly about it not being overmodeled even more.


1K3,

That isn't what I've read.  Post some backup to that please.

[6GunUSMC]

^^ What he said... La engines were copies of GERMAN designs... With typical soviet 'quality'

[Sikboy]

I  don't know anything about the engines. Can someone point me in the direction of some data one way or the other? Even a really badly done geocities page might be nice

As for the Soviet Hordes... I'm guilty as charged. I think that I've only flown 3 sorties so far this tour that weren't in Yak-9Ts, or Il-2s. One was a 109G10 (Don't care to fight at the 10k base in a Yak lol), one was in a Ki-84 (after reading the thread here on it) and the last was in a B-24 (Trying to play nice with others on a base capture).

I wish I could say that "I don't care what everyone thinks" but for some really odd reason, I do. While in AW I was always a fan of the La-5, and wished that the Yak-9D wasn't so much of a joke, I could never quite get myself to fly the La-7 with any sort of regularity (in 3 years I have 2 kills, and 3 deaths lol... maybe the only person in game who doesn't have a positive K/D in the thing heh). Mostly because of the stigma that goes with it.

Either way though, I find the Yak-9U to be more than enough plane to compete in the MA. What I like most about it, is the ability to move the fight away from an enemy field. I can usually entice a plane or two to follow me out of the furball for some individualized loving. I'm certainly no killer, but I give as well as I get most of the time. Of course, I often chase Cherry pickers in a furball, which is pretty much cherry picking in and of itself, so I'm not really all that classy lol.

I've been flying the Yak-9T more lately just because it's funny to watch planes break in half from a single ping at 400 yards.  

-Sik

[Raider179]

perk the lagay...sounds good.  I see way to many of them being flown when the numbers are with the attackers. I have no problems with guys upping one to defend a base or whatever but using them to attack is pretty lame.

[straffo]

1K3 you're wrong.

If the LA7 is gay what is the status of the P51, D9,G10 and so on ?

There is no reason to perk the LA7.

It's already almost perked as it's often the 1st plane killed in a furball.

[Howitzer]

Guppy, I know what you mean exactly.  I'll be engaged with one fighter, think I'm alone so I get low and slow, and out of nowhere here comes a stupid LA7 from my 12 o'clock, and I can't manuever.  So what do I do?  Lately... I know its sad, but I'll just HO um.  He is obviously going to shoot, he chose the angle, and I don't have enough power to make a move that ruins his shooting solution.  More times than not, it is a new guy, he'll start spraying from WAY far out, and you can most likely win the HO, and pick up your previous target.  

I'm not a fan of the HO, but sometimes...   when in Rome....

[Westy]

"lol Ash82 is based on a straight and quick copy of the 190 radial engine (BMW 801) NOT American"

But, lol, like duh... The 801 itself was a plagerized version of the Wright R-2600.

[Urchin]

As far as I know, the el Gay was a development of the La-5, which was a development of the LaGG-3 (basically dropping a radial engine in it).  

I'm sure there was more to it than that, but I don't think the La-X series was a copy of anything.. German or American.