i will say i agree with the topic, but find is a quagmire of complications.
some people expect the communication of working together in a furball, not a whole "squad" thing, just in that sortie, help their neighbors.
you are correct back when vox first came out natively in AH, the crowd was alot better. they'd tell someone to shutup and quit cussing, or something and the offender would do it.
i will also say i have committed this sin myself. 90% of the time on squad channel (which a few squaddies have their kids watching) and i always feel bad, but i thak the game so ****** personally, and get all emotional about it i dont know what to do sometimes LOL.
what is it about kids loving to watch this game? family and friends too? my CO's girlfriend likes to sit wand read a book / watch / listen during squad night. she say's it's like watching a movie. i have a buddy who stops by to get away from his kids every now and then, he likes to watch too.
the problem with that is the sound. everyone i know who likes to watch wants to hear also. a headphone splitter and extra headphones might work, but who wants to make a bunch of people put on headphones (and buy a bunch too)? i have had as many as 6 people watching one time, showing them the game, and what it is like online.
i my be a bit more lax about the cussing, as yes i have heard it, but never more than a few seconds, then i fly out of the area. that or the offender was shot down.
i intentionally fly out of range vox of the "dlamba" types most of the time anyway, i can't stand to hear that screetching.
anyway, being mroe "lax"... growing up in the 70's before HBO, pay TV, and multimedia i still knew most of the "bad words" by 1st and 2nd grade (6-7 years old). i also knew i'd get my butt WHIPPED for using any of them, even around friends that might say "mommy davey said *****" or something.
my best frined in the world has 4 children. 10, 6, 4, and 2. the 10 and 6 are boys, the other 2 girls. the 10 year old has said sh** in front of him, and got a talking to i guess, but the mother did pretty much nothing. dad was almost laughing when the 6 year old said sh** one day (he thought the way the kid said it it was hilarious) that made the kid giggly, and hence all of a sudden cussing is not a punishable offense in the real sence.
it is unfortunate, they are not as strict religiously or morally as our parents were. i have a feeling many families are like that now sadly, and of course along with the liberal parenting comes the liberal blame game: "my kid cusses because TV is corrupt and needs to be censored" instead of teaching kids properly in the first place.
i in NO way say any here are like that, and i want to make clear i am NOT making any judgments on anyone in this thread. Redtop we have met and you know or i hope you can trust me on that.
Seagoon, i can understand your situation, and sympathize with it. the choice you have to make is a frustrating one, and is not easy.
the real problem in this situation is where do we go from here? HTC can give in and make range squelchable (or tunable like CH200), then have alot of people mad they couldn't communicate with the pilots in their area.
he could leave it the way it is, and keep some people mad in a sence.
either way there are unhappy customers, the question is which one aggravates more than the other? HTC is a business, in the business of making a profit. they are great nice people, but those are the facts jack. noone want's to hear they are the customer in the minority that is getting ignnored, or however you explain it. the bummer is no matter what they finally decide, there will be a customer base that is the "ignored" part.
it is the same way with all the plane requests, gameplay requests, and everything. i highly doubt HTC staff make a snap decision about this stuff. from what i have seen of HT and Pyro, they probably have 20 spreadsheets of data charting the trends and probabilities in different scenarios. if the "numbers" say leave vox, they probably will i am guessing. that does not make them the bad guy in no way in my mind. they made a business decision. the business is not about constitutional rights, free speech, or any of that garbage. they make the rules, we obey, or go somewhere else where the rules fit us i guess.
personally i have given up trying to "demand" they do anything to change the game. it doesn't matter what a lone person thinks. i may come up with an idea, and can suggest it. maybe other players will like it, maybe HTC will like it. maybe they will all hate it. i will not be mad or sad or pissed off if they do. why be?
in closing, all, this has been a free flowing tirade of text, with no real reason. if i worded something in a bad way i am sorry, i am not great with language all the time. nothing in this is meant to offend, attack, direct agnst towards a player / group of players.
i agree that cussing on range vox is a bad thing, i agree that something should possibly be done about it, but i can not think of a solution that does not make a part of the AH community upset in some way. i think AH is a great game, and there are tons of changes out there that may or may not work. i think socitey is more corrupt than a polititian in strip strip club. i think there are no real answers, only comprimises that lead to the least aggravating course.
