Author Topic: Its not bad being a minority (Read 3094 times)

Nash · « **Reply #180 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:05:33 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Oh yeah Nash, well you're view is BS. See how easy that is to say?

And personal affair for who? I'd think that her own life is her own personal affair and nobody can prove she would have wanted to be starved to death.

I'm saying you protect life unless there is proof that she would have wanted to be left to die. What harm is it to feed her?

Nuke... It was proven. Constantly, and consistently.

(unless courts and the rule of law doesn't mean anything to you)

Her wish was proven. Constantly, and consistently.

POOF goes your entire post.

NUKE · « **Reply #181 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:06:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Nuke... It was proven. Constantly, and consistently.

(unless courts and the rule of law doesn't mean anything to you)

Her wish was proven. Constantly, and consistently.

POOF goes your entire post.

You're wrong, as usual. Her wishes have never been proven.

Nash · « **Reply #182 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:07:11 AM »

Is this the point when you become unhinged?

NUKE · « **Reply #183 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:07:36 AM »

lol, not at all.

Airhead · « **Reply #184 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:09:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
BS, and Lieberman needs to go.

"One more...."

Hell, it was ran through the courts 25 times before those idiots got their smarmy hands on it and, based on no fact finding whatsoever, said "re-do".

Because... what?

It was an egregious intrusion by the highest political body into the smallest, saddest of personal affairs.

The entire thing is wrong on so many levels.

Yeah yeah yeah Nash, the Courts said this and the Courts said that, but do you know what? The bottom line is that we have sanctioned starving to death a human being... and I can't feel good about it. It makes us less as a society somehow.

Nash · « **Reply #185 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:09:07 AM »

Courts said she would want the tubes yanked.

BANG goes the gavel. Repeatedly. Done.

Her wishes have never been proven?

NUKE · « **Reply #186 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:10:58 AM »

The courts made a ruling without any proof, because there is no proof.

There is the word of her husband against the word of her family and friends.

The court didn't prove squat, they issued a ruling that the husband had the right to decide.

Nash · « **Reply #187 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:11:02 AM »

Airhead...

Over a MILLION people got their tubes yanked in '04.

Less of a society?

I'd say if this is the cause of a lessening of society, then there is a hell of a lotta work to be done.

Nash · « **Reply #188 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:12:56 AM »

Ok Nuke... All 30 rulings are in error.

Because the judges.... are wrong.

The courts are wrong.

The entire legal system is wrong.

Because you are right.

Airhead · « **Reply #189 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:16:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Courts said she would want the tubes yanked.

BANG goes the gavel. Repeatedly. Done.

Her wishes have never been proven?

No, the courts said her husband is the sole determinater rather she lives or dies and he has decided she should die by starvation.

And the Courts have backed him up.

Nash, how can you just slam bang the fact we're starving to death a human being and, at the same time, feel trepedation and regret because you have to shoot gophers or look less manly in the eyes of your printer budddy?

Nash · « **Reply #190 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:20:28 AM »

Fer one, that gopher guy is a goof. The idea of proving anything to him is laughable.

For two, the courts not only considered guardianship, they considered her wishes.

They ruled on both of these.

So... Where does that leave your argument?

NUKE · « **Reply #191 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:20:44 AM »

Airhead, it's because his moral compass is spining like it's in the Burmuda Triangle.

Nash · « **Reply #192 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:23:36 AM »

All of our moral compasses are spinning.

I think it's perpetual. Terri or otherwise.

Trick is to dial it in.

NUKE · « **Reply #193 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:42:04 AM »

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/27/74045.shtml

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 7:34 a.m. EST
Schiavo: 'We Didn't Know What Terri Wanted'

In a bizarre statement on the day Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was disconnected, Michael Schiavo seemed to inadvertently admit that he had no idea what his wife would have wanted if she became incapacitated.

During an appearance on CNN's "Larry King Live," Michael was asked if he could appreciate the distress of Terri's parents:

"Yes, I do," he replied, according to a CNN transcript. "But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want."

Raider179 · « **Reply #194 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:45:23 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
The courts made a ruling without any proof, because there is no proof.

There is the word of her husband against the word of her family and friends.

The court didn't prove squat, they issued a ruling that the husband had the right to decide.

Actually if the word of her husband, best friend, uncle, and brother in law against no one.

The family's only comback to them all saying she said she didn't want to live on tubes was that she was catholic and it goes against catholic religion.

I've posted the quote a couple times in this thread but yet it still goes right by people. Here it is again...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/22/schiavo/index.html

Schiavo's parents point to the absence of a living will, or written document, clearly spelling out her wishes. They argue that their daughter's due process rights have been violated and that she would not have wanted to die this way due to her faith as a Roman Catholic.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/21/schiavo/index.html

George Felos, an attorney for Michael Schiavo, pointed out that the husband is Terri Schiavo's legal guardian and argued that her parents don't have legal standing to make their case.

Felos also said Terri Schiavo told her best friend, brother-in-law and uncle that she would never want to be kept alive in this type of scenario.

Outside court, Felos told reporters that Terri Schiavo long ago made clear her wishes: "She said, 'I don't want to be kept alive artificially -- no tubes for me. I want to go when my time comes. Take the tubes and everything out