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Offline TweetyBird

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« on: March 24, 2005, 10:23:41 PM »
"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush said. "I don't have embedded special powers. I wish I did in this particular case."


I think this is the beginning of yet another division in this country.
There are those who who step back from the sanctity of life, and those who believe they are quite capable of deciding what is life and what isn't. These two types of humans will never get along.

"Thou shall not kill" has no footnotes.

Gallup polls show 60+% don't care.
This is one time I'm glad to be a minority. To those of you who have explained away a life, I give you a wholehearted middle finger thumbs up. We will never be friends or allies.

Another divide.

You have decided imposed starvation is dignity. Well *WE* disagree.

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2005, 10:39:56 PM »
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"Thou shall not kill" has no footnotes.

You have decided imposed starvation is dignity. Well *WE* disagree.


My grandfather died a few years ago, 97 years old.

He was bedridden for at least a year prior to his death.  My uncle, who by geography was the brother who took immediate care of him, visited him daily, and for the last few months of conciousness, Grandfather did not recognize his own son.  

When Grandfather went into a coma, Dad and my Uncle had some serious heart to hearts, and they decided it was time, and petitioned to have the tube pulled out.  

The bastard doctor at the VA hospital had the gall to call my uncle a murderer.  Dad was furious and got on the next plane.

My grandfather passed by the very same way Schiavo is going.  There was no murderous intent on the part of my Uncle and Father.  It was the most heart wrenching decision they ever made, but it was made with knowledge of inevitability and with the love of sons for a father.

We humanely put animals out of their misery but unfortunately we do not have the same regard for humans.  If Schivo was a dog or a horse, she would have been put down long ago, and removal of a tube would not be an alternative.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2005, 10:40:21 PM »
You are like the wind.

"60+ don't care".

Nice choice of words there, pal.

In fact, that stat is low.....

You are definitely in the minority, and I bet you are a cat owner.

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2005, 10:52:07 PM »
The difference is that Terry is not in a coma.  Nor is she unresponsive.  Nor is she a vegetable.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 10:56:49 PM »
>>If Schivo was a dog or a horse, she would have been put down long ago, and removal of a tube would not be an alternative.<<

But because there is no prescribed humane euthanasia, we have decided its quite alright to have barbaric euthanasia by killing a human with a tenique that could get you jail time if you used it on an animal. And no judge has sensed the absurdity. If we let her die of bed sores or infection, would it be less barbaric? Perhaps instead of denying the the food and water, we deny her thew shelter and put her on a curb? Would that be less barbaric?
Millions of Americans are just sitting in their personal cages watching this idiocy and saying nothing. We're letting a woman waste away over a week or two while we have methods to kill her in a few minutes. But - KILLING her sounds harsh - so lets let her starve over two weeks?

We have a lead poisoning problem in this country, because I detect widespread insanity.

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 10:59:23 PM »
You would not treat a dog that way, you would put her down.

My last dog was not in a coma when I had her put down.  I was still a basket case for a few days when I made that decision. I did not make that decision with malice.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 11:00:34 PM »
>>I bet you are a cat owner.
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Nope - toy poodle.

But while we're guessing - I bet you have a sun dress you wear when your parents aren't home - close?


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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2005, 11:02:40 PM »
You are a rambling, lunatic, bimbo.

The feeding tubes thang has been happening forever. I can't recall ever hearing you speak-up about this before Schiavo.

Either you are ignorant about the situation, or you are letting yerself get spun outta control about one case out of thousands and thousands of identical cases.

God bless the media swine. And God bless the opportunists.

Tuck yer tampon back in, have a good cry about it, and move on.

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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2005, 11:16:03 PM »
I guess I should respond to that...

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2005, 11:17:16 PM »
And I bet it will be a doozy.

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2005, 11:31:03 PM »
If it means that much to you, get off this board and get to her bedside. Do something or can it.

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2005, 11:31:47 PM »
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The difference is that Terry is not in a coma.  Nor is she unresponsive.  Nor is she a vegetable.


Hmmm... what exactly do they mean when they say, "persistive vegetative state" there Doc?
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2005, 11:38:21 PM »
>>My last dog was not in a coma when I had her put down. I was still a basket case for a few days when I made that decision. I did not make that decision with malice.<<

I have no doubt. It's a lot different with an animal. They don't have logic, they don't understand. They DO have conciousness and may be in pure misery when sick, not only because of pain, but because they feel vulnerable. I'm not certain, but I'm fairly sure an animal's sense of well being is directly influenced by their sense of being up for any task they may be confronted with. If a animal feels wounded, I'm  fairly sure it lives in a state of anxiety.
I think the only thing worse than that would be for the animal to feel it was dieing. I wouldn't have an animal feeling it was dieing over 2 weeks. But here we are doing it to a woman in front of the world and few people care. Barbarism is in now - I'm glad I'm out.

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2005, 11:41:12 PM »
>> Do something or can it.<<

No.

You don't hear that a lot I bet.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2005, 12:26:17 AM »
Schiavo's parents, and you, have heard "no" from 26 different judges now. All in a row. All saying the same thing. Yet you still rant. It is you who can't accept "no".