Author Topic: God and the US of A (Read 1840 times)

Toad · « **Reply #30 on:** April 18, 2005, 07:46:58 AM »

Of course, Funked.

But that is so inconvenient for some people in this thread, isn't it?

So, I guess it's best to let the straw men win the day.

It was a fishing trip in a boat with no bottom and I think the Skipper just realized that. No matter how many Gilligans chime in, that isn't going to change.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 18, 2005, 07:51:50 AM »

This is almost as bad as Nash's Libertarian troll.
Formula "I would like to make a blanket generalization but I will present no evidence to support my claim. I am so obviously correct that no evidence is required. Attempt to refute my generalization."

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 18, 2005, 08:25:29 AM »

what is going on that you are so worried about nash? You even got skyprancer and his girfriend to reactivate their cell tho..

lazs

Skydancer · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:20:02 AM »

Thrawn · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:30:33 AM »

I always find it humourous when a Canadians express concern about seperation of church and state in the US...

"SCHEDULE B

CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982(79)

PART I
CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:"

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/annex_e.html#I

...because they don't have anything on us.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #35 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:40:41 AM »

Oddly enough, for about 180 years, in the United States, it was fine to have children pray in school, the Ten Comandments were found in most government buildings and courthouses (laws here were based on the Judeo Christian values found in the Ten Commandments), the Pledge of Allegiance had God in it for 30 years, the phrase "In God WE Trust" was on our currency, and referrences to God were on most all of the documents authored by the "Founding Fathers".

Then we had Madelyne Murray O'Hare decide that prayer was offensive to the huge masses of athiests we had. Suddenly, after this, it became the "IN" thing to try to remove every reference to God and Judeo Christian values from everything the government was associated with.

But Nash thinks it's the "fundamentalist wackos" who are trying to change everything.

The truth is, the silent majority has grown sick of the direction the country has taken since the fringe on the far left has become fashionable and seen fit to attempt to remove God from everything, and is now seeking to protect the Judeo Christian principles on which the country was founded.

JB88 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:44:56 AM »

guess i know what i'll be doing later when i get home.

Skydancer · « **Reply #37 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:45:23 AM »

"Hallelujiah Hallelujiah"

The Crusades have started. Just that the Crusaders come from a bit further away than they did in the 12th century.

"Gott Mit Uns" huh?

Toad · « **Reply #38 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:46:58 AM »

Again you show you haven't the least idea of the heart of the discussion.

Like a little boy, you just jump on the bandwagon shouting something that sounds good to you but has no relation to the topic at hand.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:23:16 AM »

Typical zulu, nothing worth saying, but it is still said.

Your remind me of a little poodle that jumps around his master barking and nipping at his hand.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:25:32 AM »

I am with Toad and Funked on this, this is all just a troll or alarmist post without something to point to as part of the argument.

As for you bananas that think you have to be a religous to want Nash to show us to proof of laws on the way.... well I am far from it. I am not a Christian, and though I think I believe in something it is not the Christian god.

But I have no problems with most of what christianty pushes.

Curval · « **Reply #41 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:27:32 AM »

Praise The Lord! (and pass the ammunition).

Saintaw · « **Reply #42 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:29:13 AM »

Toad, I don't think Skydancer was the 1st to mention the word "Crusade" ... I beleive I heard that word from your boss a while back.

Skydancer · « **Reply #43 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:47:04 AM »

There ya go.

As regards the issue. Take Abortion as an example.

Over here Various clerics clergy etc are asking for it to be an election issue. Quite rightly the major parties are not making it an election issue as it is a matter of personal concience.

Bit different to the GW Bush stance during your election huh?

Sensible thinking people keep personal concience, religion etc out of politics.

Unless of course you are GW Bush and the rightwing Christian fundamentalist church in which case your ideolgy becomes the one which all people have to live by.

In essence I believe faith is a personal thing not a governmental issue.

Toad · « **Reply #44 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:58:35 AM »

For all of you who apparently don't understand the US constitution, including Nash, Sky, Silat, Saw, lasersailor.....

I again ask you to point out ANY laws that establish an "official" religion for the US or prohibit the free exercise of any religion in the US.

The President is free to pray publicly, declare "Crusades" against anyone, go to church with the TV cameras watching...whatever.

See, it's this really cool concept.... even our President gets to enjoy the FREE EXERCISE OF ANY RELIGION he personally subscribes to.

Now this may or may not impact his "approval rating" or his reelection chances or whatever... but like Jefferson in his inaugural address, any President can ask his fellow citizens to pray for/with him.

And it absolutely would not violate the "wall of separation between church and state."

If you think it does, then you're only showing your ignorance of the topic.