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Offline Grits

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« Reply #120 on: May 28, 2005, 12:35:09 AM »
Let me ask you a few questions KONG, and I do not mean this in a confrontational manner, I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

What do you think of a couple of your Squaddies attitudes and the way they treat other people?

Do you think they behave in an appropriate manner towards others both in the arena and on the BBS?

How would you have responded their personal attacks if you had been the target?

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« Reply #121 on: May 28, 2005, 12:47:07 AM »
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Is this what your looking for TK?

I like screen shots, don't you slash? Anything else you want to lie about?





Link to your "smoking gun " isnt working.





And how is "why are you guys vulching?" an insult? I wished you would have taken some screenshots too TK.




KONG, would you like to meet me in the CT to chat?
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« Reply #122 on: May 28, 2005, 03:29:44 AM »
Wow.... I can't believe I read the whole thing.

I, as and outsider who rarely fly’s the CT, agree w/ Levi on this.  Outside looking in, threads like this don't make me want to fly the CT what so ever, which is too bad because I have had some fun times in the CT over the years.

Another point, the badmouthing of the CM's need to stop.  I don't agree w/ how Slash is responding to some of this, but I also see he is being "pushed" pretty hard by some of you and that needs to quit.  Being a CM is hard work.  They are volunteering their time to try and make AH a better game for everybody.  The CT CM's need to be given a measure of respect, for they don't HAVE to do it, and do it purely out of love for the game.  So if you disagree with a CM on an issue, keep it to the topic at hand, and show a little respect.

Here's a snugget from Skuzzy on a recent King of the Hill thread I was in where a player was bashing me, and the CM's in general.  Sage advice here guys.

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If you think you can run this even better, then fill out a CM application.
If you do not want to run the event, but would like to discuss it, then do so.
It is not acceptable, under any circumstances, for players to bad-mouth other players.  There is nothing to be gained from it.  Nothing.  If you cannot properly discuss, then leave.  If you think proper discussion is about being derogatory to other players, then you are choosing to not be a part of this forum.


Keep it civil.  A discussion will get no where fast if all you contribute to it is derogatory flames at other players, let alone flaming a CM.  Poor taste.  If you have a problem, post it, discuss it, and work it out.  Flames and insults are going to do nothing to further the discussion, and might cause you to no longer be ABLE to discuss things on this forum.

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« Reply #123 on: May 28, 2005, 05:21:44 AM »
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Wow.... I can't believe I read the whole thing.

I, as and outsider who rarely fly’s the CT, agree w/ Levi on this.  Outside looking in, threads like this don't make me want to fly the CT what so ever, which is too bad because I have had some fun times in the CT over the years.

Another point, the badmouthing of the CM's need to stop.  I don't agree w/ how Slash is responding to some of this, but I also see he is being "pushed" pretty hard by some of you and that needs to quit.  Being a CM is hard work.  They are volunteering their time to try and make AH a better game for everybody.  The CT CM's need to be given a measure of respect, for they don't HAVE to do it, and do it purely out of love for the game.  So if you disagree with a CM on an issue, keep it to the topic at hand, and show a little respect.

Here's a snugget from Skuzzy on a recent King of the Hill thread I was in where a player was bashing me, and the CM's in general.  Sage advice here guys.



Keep it civil.  A discussion will get no where fast if all you contribute to it is derogatory flames at other players, let alone flaming a CM.  Poor taste.  If you have a problem, post it, discuss it, and work it out.  Flames and insults are going to do nothing to further the discussion, and might cause you to no longer be ABLE to discuss things on this forum.

Just my 2 cents


Good post Lute. Sadly the people who are flaming the CM's, not just Slash, either quit the job when they had it or don't have the balls to step up to the plate.

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« Reply #124 on: May 28, 2005, 08:19:50 AM »
Troll
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 10:11:56 AM by Skuzzy »

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« Reply #125 on: May 28, 2005, 08:35:13 AM »
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Troll



lol

I heard he's got little dolls and lots of pins as well , been feeling any  lower back pain lately ?    ;)

mate , you are really into  the full blown conspiracy theory now .  Do you really believe this stuff or are you just pulling our legs  ?  You're cracking me up either way  :)
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 10:12:24 AM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #126 on: May 28, 2005, 09:29:59 AM »
the good thing about a ct arena is that with the proper map and settings, low numbers (5 on a side) would result in a fantastic time

I wish I had the time and the skill, I would make those maps

but using what is avaiable now is also possible
see my post here:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151694

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get over yourself, it is ok to die when u are removed from your horde
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« Reply #127 on: May 28, 2005, 10:13:55 AM »
Storch, have you lost your mind?  It's posts like yours that steer people away from the CT.  Who as an outsider would want to fly with or against someone who just posted what you posted?

Edit:  It was Skuzzified.

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« Reply #128 on: May 28, 2005, 12:14:29 PM »
it was the truth irrespective of skuzzification

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« Reply #129 on: May 28, 2005, 12:24:19 PM »
No, it was an accusation of cheating/hacking the game directed towards another player.  No bearing in truth at all.

"8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously. "
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« Reply #130 on: May 28, 2005, 12:30:29 PM »
storch
Since you have a self exile on yourself from CT, please extend it to the CT forum

Your babbling does nothing but harm the arena and since you longer partake (I do miss killing you over and over), your opinion is irrelevant
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« Reply #131 on: May 28, 2005, 12:38:29 PM »
Reasonably confident you won't win this argument storch.

Might want to scroll up and re-read what I posted. It was from the heart. Let's keep it civil (and reality based. I read the pre-skuzzyfied version, and was amused, yet saddened) and you would be amazed at what can get done when everyone is discussing things in a rational manner.  The flowing of intelligent discourse would be a delightful waft of fresh air in here.
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« Reply #132 on: May 28, 2005, 12:44:41 PM »
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No, it was an accusation of cheating/hacking the game directed towards another player.  No bearing in truth at all.

"8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously. "


Now that kind of talk really turns me on!

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« Reply #133 on: May 28, 2005, 12:57:23 PM »
Grits,

I could write a book on how to deal with bad behaviors.  I’m actually of the opinion that people who are capable of behaving in a reasonable way on a consistent basis are in the minority.  We all have inbred instincts of fight or flight and the tendency to lash out when threatened was important in a primal environment.  Reasonable behavior requires reasoning, this takes place in our cerebral cortex.  The question is who’s in control the Hulk or David Banner. Like I said, I could write a book, there’s the first paragraph.

Life teaches us many lessons in human nature that we can use for good or bad.  I have observed someone using their knowledge of human nature to elicit reactionary responses from someone less experienced. Not one to abide bullies, I used reason and simple truth to illuminate the shortcomings in their character.

In my business I have interns who work for free, they are greatly appreciated.  I also have customers who come in every shape, size and disposition.  My interns are instructed NEVER to engage a customer.  That’s my job.  If there is a complaint I ignore the form it comes in and try to determine if there is some substance to it.  If there is abusiveness I deal with it calmly and decisively and never bicker.  I find defensiveness abhorrent. If you are not wrong why be defensive, if you are wrong do something about it. Now to answer your questions:

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What do you think of a couple of your Squaddies attitudes and the way they treat other people?

First, you need to be more specific, which couple, what attitudes. Attitude is such a big word it is almost worthless.  There are initial attitudes, attitudes resulting from specific treatment, attitudes resulting from other attitudes.  I often receive negative reactions from people because my attitude is: if you say your gonna do it, do it.  I don’t suffer fools easily and believe in personal responsibility.  Some find these attitudes to be very negative others find them quite reasonable.  Attitude is a very subjective thing.  Discussing attitude is always fruitless better to discuss behaviors, which brings me to your next question.

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Do you think they behave in an appropriate manner towards others both in the arena and on the BBS?

Another very non-specific question and “appropriate” is a highly subjective term.  I can tell you I have behaved inappropriately on occasion but believe I’m way above the curve. I believe everybody’s behavior in the game exists in a gray scale somewhere between Oldman and the guy who just got permanently booted.  If I had to average all the behaviors of all my squadies according to my version of appropriate. I believe they would be significantly above average.  I joined this thread discussing specific behaviors by specific people as they pertain to the game environment. If you have specific examples of bad behavior please enumerate them. If you have examples of abusive behavior or personal attacks that brings me to your next question.

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How would you have responded their personal attacks if you had been the target?

This one’s easy.  How do you react to personal attacks?

DON’T


Personal attacks make the attacker look bad.  Besides HTC does not cotton to personal attacks or abusiveness. They can, will, and do deal with such behavior in a professional manner. In my business I’m the one who draws the lines not my interns. Take over the top behavior to them.

Edit:Here is an example of a response that demonstrates more about the attacker’s character and intellegence than the attackee’s:
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storch
Since you have a self exile on yourself from CT, please extend it to the CT forum

Your babbling does nothing but harm the arena and since you longer partake (I do miss killing you over and over), your opinion is irrelevant

I don't have to extend an opinion, speaks for itself.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 01:26:01 PM by KONG1 »
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« Reply #134 on: May 28, 2005, 01:05:50 PM »
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No, it was an accusation of cheating/hacking the game directed towards another player.  No bearing in truth at all.
 

 it was no such thing.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 01:08:31 PM by storch »