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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2005, 01:18:02 PM »
Boroda, you freakin commie martyr reactionist stalinist apologist... Enemy at the Gates is the only western film I've seen that gives even a slight indication of how horrific the Seige at Stalingrad was..

Plot, acting, poor; unbelievable. Scenes, 'feel'.. nicely done.

to The Rooski's, the turning point to the war in europe came BEFORE pearl harbor!

Now, go slice an onion and slam back some pepper vodka. Any chance the film you mention is avaiable for the west? with subtitles in english? would love to see it.
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« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2005, 01:18:36 PM »
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"Enemy at the gates" is a crap.


I agree, but I really enjoyed the book.

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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2005, 01:20:58 PM »
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I agree, but I really enjoyed the book.

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"War of the Rats".  Great read. Good historical 'sidebar' woven with fitional plots. Eye-opener with regards to Stalingrad.
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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2005, 01:22:41 PM »
TALK TO ME GOOSE!
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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2005, 01:26:46 PM »
WWII films, Yeager.
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« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2005, 01:47:28 PM »
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Boroda, you freakin commie martyr reactionist stalinist apologist... Enemy at the Gates is the only western film I've seen that gives even a slight indication of how horrific the Seige at Stalingrad was..

Plot, acting, poor; unbelievable. Scenes, 'feel'.. nicely done.

to The Rooski's, the turning point to the war in europe came BEFORE pearl harbor!


Well, 90% of the "offence" about that film is because it was made in the West. Now we have our own films that are many times worse then EatG. Typical plot is: criminals released from jail fight nazis and bloody cops... er, officers hinder them.

Some scenes sound like Soviet jokes: "Granny, and why do you have such a big nose?" - "It's because I am a Jew", said a Wolf and started to cry...

Soviet soldiers are mindless cattle. Officers are bastards who hate them... Stalingrad veterans organisation was really enraged by EatG...

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Now, go slice an onion and slam back some pepper vodka. Any chance the film you mention is avaiable for the west? with subtitles in english? would love to see it.


Drinking ordinary stuff now, no pepper or onions :(

I didn't think I'll see "Liberation" on TV any more, you know, any film where Soviet soldiers are always on "good side" are considered "politically incorrect" now (see the schoolbook thread).

Made a search in Edonkey network - didn't find any links :(

Only an article on IMDB: http://imdb.com/title/tt0151852/

The original Soviet film is 5 episodes long and starts from Kursk battle.
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« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2005, 01:48:45 PM »
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I agree, but I really enjoyed the book.

culero


You mean "There is no land behind Volga for us" by Vasiliy Zaitsev? Unfortunately I didn't read it :(
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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2005, 01:49:12 PM »
DOH!

goose is in heaven now......
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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2005, 01:53:06 PM »
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The best epic full-scale WWII film is "Osvobozhdenie" ("Liberation") by Yuri Ozerov.

Re-watched it several weeks ago, was amazed how brilliantly it is made! In a forced crossing of Dniepr scene you see a T-34 on a pontoon being hit by a German shell, it slids into the water and goes upside-down, and then you understand it's a REAL tank really sinking in the river... And it's only a small detail in the background of the whole scene...

Surprisingly - very little "Party line" crap.
 


Can't agree. Yep, it is "epic" movie but I would say it has only 5% of truth.

I would say that the best Russian WW2 movies are "Guga", "V boy idut odni stariki", "Torpedonoscy", "A zory zdes tihie". It is a real war,  not Hollywood sweet fairy tales. After re-watching that  movies I want to bring flowers to the monuments to war dead.
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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2005, 02:03:51 PM »
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Can't agree. Yep, it is "epic" movie but I would say it has only 5% of truth.


Yeah, 95% of truth must be in "Shtrafbat"!...

I like it for the scale and the feeling of the battle... I didn't see it for maybe 15-20 years, and now it looks quite different then at that times for me.

Interesting fact: two T-44s decoyed as Tigers that acted in Yuri Ozerov's films were bought from Mosfilm by Americans, and you can see them in "Saving private Ryan".

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I would say that the best Russian WW2 movies are "Guga", "V boy idut odni stariki", "Torpedonoscy", "A zory zdes tihie". It is a real war,  not Hollywood sweet fairy tales. After re-watching that  movies I want to bring flowers to the monuments to war dead.


"Guga" - what's that?

Other films you mentioned - I posted about them here many times. Some more to mention are "They fought for the Motherland", "Dive-bomber chronicles", "At War as at War", "Test on the roads".

From modern films I'll advise Zvezda, labeled as "communist propaganda" at some European film-festival in 2002.

Isn't it strange that films like Zvezda or Balabanov's "Vojna" ("War") are never issued on DVD in the West?...
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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2005, 02:32:11 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2005, 03:20:04 PM »
Flying Leatherneck
Halls of Montezuma
Midway
To Hell and Back
Tora! Tora! Tora!

Gotta say that Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers are worst movie ever made for WWII Film.
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2005, 03:22:34 PM »
My ALL TIME FAVORITE:

The Cruel Sea

Some of my other Faves (only those that haven't got many mentions to date):

Guns of Navarone
Bridge over the River Kwai
The War Lover
King Rat
The Dambusters
Sink the Bismark
Hell is for Heroes

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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2005, 03:30:28 PM »
Lol, nobody mentioned Catch 22. :)
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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2005, 03:32:45 PM »
Dumbo.  It came out during WWII, right?

Makes me all teary-eyed just thinking about it.
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