Author Topic: Nothing to hide, nothing to fear (Read 1698 times)

Sandman · « **on:** June 23, 2005, 07:31:40 PM »

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So... the U.S. won't allow independent inspectors into Gitmo. Until the current admin decides to play along with the rest of the world, our credibility will continue to suffer.

If we're doing nothing wrong, we've nothing to fear from an inspection. It's high time we took the high road, IMHO.

Skydancer · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2005, 07:38:37 PM »

Yes it is!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:02:55 PM »

not when the people that desire the inspectors have no desire to seek justice for those detained or confirmation of any type of truth.

I truely beleive there are those out there that want nothing more than to make the US look bad. Gitmo could be club med for habib and we'd still get a bad report from "independent inspectors" and world condemnation to follow.

john9001 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:08:56 PM »

i think we need "independent inspectors" to check out mainland US prisons, not the club med of gitmo.

NUKE · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:17:50 PM »

Yeah, let's bow down to a UN commision who's members are from nations with horrible human rights violations.

No need to let these guys inspect anything except maybe their own countries violations.

The prisoners at GITMO are getting better treatment and food than the guards in some cases.

Also, they are lawfully held as enemy combatants and can be held without representation for the duration of the war.

Yeager · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:21:11 PM »

just wait till the big one goes off. after that no one will care about gitmo. Least not those left holding the ball....

Vulcan · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:21:29 PM »

I'd like to read the reports on Iraq (under Saddam); Iran; North Korea; Syria; Zimbabwe; and so on, to make sure these guys are properly qualified to do the job.

Does anyone have any links on their reports from those countries?

NUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:27:12 PM »

These people detained are unlawful enemy combatants. The US has the legal right to detain them for the length of the hostilities.

Even though they do not fall under the protection for lawful enemy combatants, we still treat them that way.

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All of the detainees are unlawful combatants and thus do not as a matter of law receive the protections of the Third Geneva Convention. However, the United States armed forces are treating, and will continue to treat, all enemy combatants humanely and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity, in a manner consistent with the principles of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949. Among many other things, this means that they receive: three meals a day that meet Muslim dietary laws; medical care; clothing and shoes; shelter; showers; soap and toilet articles; the opportunity to worship; the means to send mail and receive mail, subject to security screening; and the ability to receive packages of food and clothing, also subject to security screening. In addition, the International Committee of the Red Cross has visited and will continue to visit the detainees privately. The detainees will be permitted to raise concerns about their conditions, and we will attempt to address those concerns consistent with security.

http://www.cfr.org/publication.php?id=5312

Ripsnort · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2005, 09:29:31 PM »

Get Mo?

How about a shirt?

(I've always said that Rush was pure entertainment)

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2005, 09:31:12 PM »

Um no... the 'international community' can stay out, thanks.

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2005, 09:33:01 PM »

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Toad · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:11:01 PM »

Other than the near certainty that the dedicated A-Q prisoners will do anything to hurt the US, including fabricating tales of incredible punishment (and you know some will), I think it's a good idea.

I'd even invite the newsies to spend a night in the compound in a cell and see how it goes. Bible or Quran, their choice.

Take a group of 20 through, let 10 be picked by the UN and 10 by the Bush admin.

Then we can have a Jane Curtain/Dan Akroyd "Point Counterpoint" shows after it's over.

Both sides get their shills, we get entertained. What do you think?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:16:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Other than the near certainty that the dedicated A-Q prisoners will do anything to hurt the US, including fabricating tales of incredible punishment (and you know some will), I think it's a good idea.

I'd even invite the newsies to spend a night in the compound in a cell and see how it goes. Bible or Quran, their choice.

Take a group of 20 through, let 10 be picked by the UN and 10 by the Bush admin.

Then we can have a Jane Curtain/Dan Akroyd "Point Counterpoint" shows after it's over.

Both sides get their shills, we get entertained. What do you think?

LMAO! "Jane, you ignorant Git..."

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:18:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LMAO! "Jane, you ignorant Git..."

AHHHH that one went WAY over my head till you said that. Classic

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2005, 11:24:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger

I truely beleive there are those out there that want nothing more than to make the US look bad. Gitmo could be club med for habib and we'd still get a bad report from "independent inspectors" and world condemnation to follow.

Then look at it another way... this is an opportunity for the U.S. to look good.