Originally posted by Sparks:
People who know me in person know that I am a generally tolerant.
That is not obvious from your post. It seems that once you see something that you are ignorant about, instead of figuring out or learning why that is, your tolerance runs out.
Please allow me to enlighten you on a few points any child is supposed to learn in school:
I couldn't give a toss about what scientists say about global warming - I do give a toss about what I see in my life every day What use seing if you brain is not involved?
I see 1 in 4 kids in our schools carrying inhalers for asthmer - it was almost unheard of when I was at school And when was that? In the few recent decades medicine made enormous progress - especially pediatric care and obstetrics. Infant mortality dropped enormously so lots of babies who would not have a chance to survive pregnancy or first few months are alive today so
you can see them. Of course those people would be less healthy then avarage. Plus they would in turn make babies who would inherit their parent's weaknesses.
On top of that you have huge progress in fertility treatments so sick people who would not have had babies in the past now often do and sometimes have babies with inheritable diseases.
How about our generous welfare state where the whole generations of mothers are using drugs and alcohol and making sick babies by the dozen to survive and tarnish your statistics?
Similar thing happened in WWI when introduction of steel helmets caused more people with headwounds in the hospitals - not becasue helmets attracted bullets but because they allowed survive a bullet hit with just a wound!
So you see how a positive thing of more babies being born and surviving despite some of them being weaker is presented as a negative by manipulating politicians or morons like you.
I see every man and his dog with unexplained allergies Same thing as the previous point plus lots of cheap food produced that involve artificial ingredients, lots of new materials some people are allergic to, etc. Nobody prevents people from buying all-natural stuff. It is more expencive then common products but not more expencive then natural stuff was 50 years ago when it was produced on inferior technology or manually. If you buy a Honda Civic instead of Ford Explorer every five years, the difference would be enough to pay for all-natural food and clothes. Most people do not chose that.
I see my and my neighbours and relatives dying of cancers of every type Lot of them would not have been diagnosed in the past or would not have survived to get cancer because average life expectancy is much longer now. Are you going to argue that it is not? All your personal observations are BS because people do live longer, not shorter lives and that is a common knowlege.
I see millions of acres of every type of enviroment destroyed to make money - tropical forest in Africa for oil, rain forest in South America for timber and cattle Have you noticed that human population increased considerably over the same time?
I see the blind use of finite resources because they are there and cheap. Once they start running out, they will get more expencive.
WHAT THE HOLY F**K do you all think is going to happen when all this cheap fuel runs out ?????? Then it will become commercially feasable to invest money into newer or more expencive tectnologies. The laws of society and ecnomics are as basic laws of nature as the physical law of gravity.
What do you think our grand kids are going to do when the last of the fossil fuel resources are controlled by one or two countries or corporations. They will stop buying huge SUVs and industrial size air-conditioners and having showers every day and switch to solar collectors.
So 1776 why don't you look past your own selfish life and think what we might be capable of in another 4000 years. Why would we care what will happen in 4000 years? We can plan for no longer then 20 years anyway because everything changes too fast - rechnology, explosive population growth, politics.
We strive for constant economic growth because the bean counters in grey suits say thats the only way for a country's economy to survive and so we fight for the resources to keep growing They are only saying that because shareholders (us) want that. What is your pencion fund invested in?
and you know what?? - those resources have to come from somewhere, from other poorer people or from natural resource but from somewhere. Its a culture of pure greed and laziness and it's worldwide - poachers killing tigers in Russia or Shell digging for oil in Antartica its all the same "F**K you and everyone else there's money to be made here" .... and I tell you I am sick to the pit of my stomach with it. And we are all voting for it every day when we pay money for stuff we could live without and for comforts that are not really necessary, etc... Such is a human nature.
P.S. Quite a few of your points are correct, but when you are spewing obvious lies, you damage your own cause.
miko
[ 06-29-2001: Message edited by: miko2d ]
