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« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2005, 06:14:52 PM »
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AKFokerFoder+ that explanes why after I hear the bomb release at 45% and I just hold the trigger and accept my fate, I often get simaltanious kill and death. Always chalked it up to target fixation and auger on his part and never considered that I may have done the right thing by accident ;)


I am not sure how Zazen does it, but to me it IS kind of a "use the force" thing.  I don't use sights, I use the tracers, and try to get the bogey into the area where most of the shells are falling.

I made one kill at 2.5k LOL.  But I get a fair number in the 1.0 to 1.5k range.

I also have some film that I would like to have posted.  I have a sweet on where I bag 3 A20s in less than a minute, 2 by deflection, one as he dives on me.  Another one where I shoot up an IL2 for an assist, then bag a spit with a nice deflection shot about a minute later.

Ostwinds are mindless, dweeby fun!  

Last month I had 39 kills in an Ostwind in about 5 hours.

This month so far I have 36 kills in an Ostwind in a little under 5 hours.

I get killed a lot, but this month a lot of the kills were by Tigers n Panzers.
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Re: Re: On Micromanaging
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2005, 06:33:14 PM »
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Ostwinds are mindless, dweeby fun!  

Last month I had 39 kills in an Ostwind in about 5 hours.

This month so far I have 36 kills in an Ostwind in a little under 5 hours.

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I have 94 kills in 5 hrs. :O

Zazen
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Re: Re: On Micromanaging
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2005, 06:33:34 PM »
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Ostwinds are mindless, dweeby fun!  

Last month I had 39 kills in an Ostwind in about 5 hours.

This month so far I have 36 kills in an Ostwind in a little under 5 hours.

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I have 94 kills in 5 hrs. :O

Zazen
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2005, 08:12:32 PM »
Thanks for posting this! Hopefully it'll help the "new" girl... ;)
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Re: Re: Re: On Micromanaging
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2005, 08:30:26 PM »
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I have 94 kills in 5 hrs. :O

Zazen


I've never implied that I was better than you in an Osty.  Nice scoring BTW :)

Sometimes you just sit there with nothing coming in, pretty boring.

Some nights, I just don't feel like flying either. :)
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2005, 12:45:47 PM »
Just to clarify what I am describing regarding round impact, I found all the ostwind rounds hit low left.  At 200 yards, its closer to just left, but regardless the sight seems off.  I noticed this online and went offline to verify this change in impact.

Setting up using the .target command confirms that the guns is shooting low left.  Is this a recent bug, or is there some historical (or plain old game) reason for this change in impact, or is this just me?  Now that I've seen and confirmed what is going on it's no big deal, but it is odd and doesn't help with trying to hit a target, moving or not.  Btw, I have taken 'to heart' this guide and it has helped with deflection shooting.  


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Malta
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2005, 08:33:52 PM »
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Just to clarify what I am describing regarding round impact, I found all the ostwind rounds hit low left.  At 200 yards, its closer to just left, but regardless the sight seems off.  I noticed this online and went offline to verify this change in impact.

Setting up using the .target command confirms that the guns is shooting low left.  Is this a recent bug, or is there some historical (or plain old game) reason for this change in impact, or is this just me?  Now that I've seen and confirmed what is going on it's no big deal, but it is odd and doesn't help with trying to hit a target, moving or not.  Btw, I have taken 'to heart' this guide and it has helped with deflection shooting.  


Regards,

Malta


Yup, I just went and tested this with both the Ostwind and the field gun, you are correct. Fully zoomed in the rounds are slightly low and to the left of the mark. Unzoomed they are right on the money though on my FE at least. I'm not sure how recent this is, I only every use my crosshair as a reference point, generally I am focussed on the nose of the enemy plane and my tracers.

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2005, 11:44:25 PM »
FYI, for anyone having read this & still having trouble, stop by the TA.

Get someone to fly drone for you.
Turn on friendly lock (control tab I think), then tab to target them.

The lead computing gunsight will show you exactly how much lead & elevation you need in the ostwind.

You'll need to up from V6 or field other than A1. (vehicles disabled there due to lots of dweebness)

Did this with DH367th the other night and had him hitting me 2 or 3 times per pass in no more than 5 minutes.

ohh and PUNT  :)

Keep up the good work zazen
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2006, 04:34:39 PM »
Bump here ya go:D  it works too
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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2006, 10:55:34 AM »
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Bump here ya go:D  it works too


Glad it helped ya Wax. I reviewed this post as it's a year old, I still do the exact same thing with the same degree of success today.
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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2006, 08:08:02 PM »
What's the trick to getting a kill in a field gun? I've never hit anithing with it but I see guys landing several kills in one. There's lots of opportunities to jump in a field gun and pop that lone incoming porker for his troubles but I don't bother because I know I can't hit him :(
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« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2006, 01:20:26 PM »
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What's the trick to getting a kill in a field gun? I've never hit anithing with it but I see guys landing several kills in one. There's lots of opportunities to jump in a field gun and pop that lone incoming porker for his troubles but I don't bother because I know I can't hit him :(


The Field gun is EXACTLY the same in every way to the Ostwind as far as aiming is concerned. The only differences are:

1) The field gun seems to be more accurate, has less spread and slightly longer effective range. This is probably due to a significantly longer barrel and being in a fixed position as opposed to a less stable vehicle platform.

2) The field gun has a slightly slower rate of fire, this means a target is more likely to, "Thread the needle", between your stream even if your lead is perfect.

3) The field gun has better 360 degree visibilty as their is no tank chassis and turret housing to obsruct your view. So, it is much easier to maintain situational awareness, as it were, in a field gun.

4) Obviously the field gun is much easier to kill, a single cannon round even close to a field gun will blow it, but then again you can't 'die' in a field gun either...


As far as aiming as illustrated in my original post there is absolutely no difference. If you are good in an Ostwind you will be good in a field gun and vice versa, it's the same 37mm cannon.

Zazen
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« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2006, 01:35:45 PM »
A lot of luck. I have quite a few hours in the Osti and field gun when the VH is down and it still seems to require a lot of luck. :furious
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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2006, 05:31:08 PM »
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A lot of luck. I have quite a few hours in the Osti and field gun when the VH is down and it still seems to require a lot of luck. :furious


There's a certain degree of luck in that the shells spread a little and you can be right on in your lead but the plane, 'threads the needle'..or not. But, all things being equal if you can judge the proper lead, you are going to be consistantly "Lucky"...

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« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2006, 06:12:55 PM »
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f you can judge the proper lead, you are going to be consistantly "Lucky"...

Zazen

Thanx Zazen.... UDAMAN :D
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