Author Topic: Keep on shooting at those 'copters (Read 6013 times)

Hangtime · « **Reply #90 on:** September 01, 2005, 07:57:32 PM »

Somalia.

In Louisiana.

Whoda thunk it?

Maverick · « **Reply #91 on:** September 01, 2005, 08:21:29 PM »

Drediok,

What we are seeing right now is the actual situation that was "discussed" on the board a little while ago. It is the loss of a city and a significant portion of it's population due to the inability to be able to take care of themselves.

These folks do not have the skills or knowledge about what is happening and how to deal with it. They ahve had it very easy living in a city where there is water at the tuen of a tap. Food at the corner store and financial help if they are out of a job or cannot work. Now the very situations that kept them in a "civilized" world is gone. The city can't help them as the city infrastructure is gone. The state is not prepared to deal with an entire city virtually gone and unable to function. The Federal Govt. takes time to get into operation and get the proper equipment and people moving into the area. Logistics is a freaking nightmare as even the roads needed to drive there are flat GONE. You can't organize the equivalent of a Berlin airlift in a couple days.

As a result of this you have an element of the population that has realized very quickly that there is no one to stop them from doing what they want. Even if there were services available it still takes time for the authorities to get to the scene of a problem in good times. The victim still has to be able to survive until help can arrive. That can mean living only for 5 or 10 minutes but that will be the longest few minutes in your entire life.

In New Orleans you must be able to react on your own to a threat. If you have no means to really react then you are just another victim to those who have the will and power to take from you what they want, including your life.

I agree with you that a firearm is a critical tool to have to protect your family in that kind of situation. Now the key question is, are you willing to get the training to make yourself a prepared firearm owner and not just a person who happens to have one in the house? I cannot strongly enough stress thsat you get training in how to use the firearm but even more importantly, when NOT to use one.

I support your desire and maybe decision to get one, just get the training to be a good owner.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #92 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:02:24 PM »

Mav. Not to worry. Should that decision come I've always had the intent on taking some sort of training course. Should I own one it would probably spend most of its time dissasembed and securely stored. inless I follow my original plan of gun ownership I've been flirting with and collecting antiques in which case they would be displayed but locked. in a locked case.
Im not real concerned about breakins as I have a dog what I can only discribe as overprotective. LOL it was almost a year before my father in law could safely walk in the house on his own and aa nothe dog who is starting to show the same type tendancies. They are not vicious. but they definately dont like unannounced entrances from people they dont know

So I dont really need to have a loaded gun available to me at a moments notice.
In an event like this I would more or less know to possibly expect the worst.

As nutty as I may seem here sometimes I am to my own credit typically very cool and clear thinking in chaotic RL situations. I'd even venture to say that is where I am at my best. I doubt very much I would go off half cocked (no pun intended) and just start blasting away. And I know what it feels like to have a gun pointed at me, on several occasions so I am not unfamiliour with that feeling either. My only concern is the last two times I didnt feel afraid. at least not in the sense one normally would discribe fear. Not sure if that would be healthy to a situation where I was also armed or not.

To any reading this. If you think you know how you would feel with a gun pointed at you but havent actually had it done.
You dont know how you would feel. And I cant explain it other then to say that barrel that pointed at you looks as if its the size of a cannon. Now if you can imagine what it might be like having a cannon pointed at you and not knowing if the person behind it was going to fire it or not. Then you might be able to start to comprehend what it feels like.

Nash · « **Reply #93 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:20:46 PM »

Whoah. Is that what's happening here?

Race?

"Somalia in Louisiana?" For real?

On like, a national scale? Totally overt? Is this why people aren't getting help? Is this why people don't care that they aren't getting help? Is this why in the face of this thing, people are saying "chose" and "welfare" and watching them die while getting "angry" with them?

My brain is exploding. There's much I don't know.

Hangtime · « **Reply #94 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:46:14 PM »

LOL Race? No. Those are americans down there.. real honest to gosh good 'ol southern louisiana bayou white and black americans. American system produced, nurtured and educated.

behold the fruits of the nanny state.

Race, Nash, oh, no no, no. The results would be pretty much the same in any urban/city in america that's in the same condition as NO.

And what have we got? Armed bands of street thugs in the open, armed property defenders behind cover, and the US Military called into the city to try and disarm the thugs and restore civil authority.

Somalia.

Not race.

Nash · « **Reply #95 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:53:29 PM »

Mmm.. yeh not bad. But I aint buyin' it.

Hangtime · « **Reply #96 on:** September 01, 2005, 10:20:27 PM »

LOL... tell me Nash, what's with the race call? Just what about this situation would lead you believe this is a race issue? It's a cottin pickin disaster... it's beyond the scope of 'racisim'.

If the government was working from a negative racisim angle martial law would have been declared and looters would have been shot on sight at the first sign of lawless behavior.

In fact, martial law is not in effect (yet) for exactly the opposite reason.. wouldn't do for the folks in detroit to be seein film of the man sparkin up homey in nu 'awlins.

tsk, tsk, tsk. Barkin the Race tree. fer shame. I fully expect the government to go to extrordinary extreme measures to make sure that it's actions could not possibly be mis-construed as negatively racially motivated.

No matter how long it takes.

Nash · « **Reply #97 on:** September 01, 2005, 10:25:56 PM »

Are you kidding me?

Out of everything you could have chosen, you compare New Orleans to Somalia, and are now seriously asking me to give you the bus ticket out of that?

I don't think so man.

Hangtime · « **Reply #98 on:** September 01, 2005, 10:28:38 PM »

at what point in time did your history books put America into a race war in Somalia?

Nash · « **Reply #99 on:** September 01, 2005, 10:30:54 PM »

Good question. It sure as hell aint in ours. Is it in yours?

Oh wait a minute....

LOL!

Silly me.

When you said "Somalia" you meant the Perfect Example of a "Nany State".

Jeeze.... How did I get it so wrong?

(who you trying to kid?)

Hangtime · « **Reply #100 on:** September 02, 2005, 12:06:40 AM »

the difference between nu awlins and somalia?

what they're standing knee deep in.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #101 on:** September 02, 2005, 12:12:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
It's a cottin pickin disaster...

are you trying to give Nash an aneurysm?

RightF00T · « **Reply #102 on:** September 02, 2005, 12:13:01 AM »

LOL...I think the only Race here is to see who can hijack the most.

Hangtime · « **Reply #103 on:** September 02, 2005, 12:16:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
are you trying to give Nash an aneurysm?

well.... yes.

How'm I doin?

Lizard3 · « **Reply #104 on:** September 02, 2005, 12:17:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Good question. It sure as hell aint in ours. Is it in yours?

Oh wait a minute....

LOL!

Silly me.

When you said "Somalia" you meant the Perfect Example of a "Nany State".

Jeeze.... How did I get it so wrong?

(who you trying to kid?)

How predictable. Feeling the need to go build them a new ghetto Nash?

How you twist armed thugs shooting at helocopters being compared to Somalia as a race issue is, well.......predictable.