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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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« Reply #240 on: October 22, 2005, 08:25:14 AM »
Lol Nekto the answer is obvious to anyone who spends 2 days in russia and 2 days in the west. Centralized leadership combined to communism is the worst thing that ever happened to a country in the history of man kind. Not to mention ethnic/political cleansing that was rampant during Stalin time and even later.
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« Reply #241 on: October 22, 2005, 09:00:54 AM »
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Lol Nekto the answer is obvious to anyone who spends 2 days in russia and 2 days in the west. Centralized leadership combined to communism is the worst thing that ever happened to a country in the history of man kind. Not to mention ethnic/political cleansing that was rampant during Stalin time and even later.

Ah... I thought you are against the language itself... Sorry for offtopic.
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« Reply #242 on: October 22, 2005, 11:08:10 AM »
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I challenge you to find a quote from this board written by a finn that claims this. And after you can't find one, apologize.

You sir are a liar.


It's strange that you ask for such things.

Here it goes:

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We're not talking russian yet. Which can't be said about any other country you attacked in WW2. Any questions?

The way I see it our victory was the moment we chose to take a stand against a 100-times larger enemy at desperate odds.


Thanks, MrRiplEy[H] ;)

Sorry, can you give me examples of "countries that we attacked in WWII" and who's talking Russian now?
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« Reply #243 on: October 22, 2005, 11:28:57 AM »
Lol Boroda youre such a fool. You can lose a battle (or two) but win the war. We never came a part of the soviet union and that in itself is a victory. We fought and paid a heavy price. Paid it in full despite being unreasonable in any concievable means.

You wanted examples? Our neighbour Estonia chose not to fight. What happened to them?

Poland? Latvia?

I know people from all those countries and none of them support that 'legal agreement' propaganda you're trying to spew here. They all hate your guts for what your country did to them.

I'm just happy I don't have to hate you for that.
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« Reply #244 on: October 22, 2005, 12:06:28 PM »
Did Estonians or Latvians speak Russian? They were not attacked. They were allowed to join USSR after absolutely legal democratic procedure. Blame democracy. More to say, huge ammounts of money were spent on their cultural debvelopment, money that were literally taken from my poket, so they had state-sponsored books in national languages, national theatres and cinema, all the things they lost after they withdrew from the Union.

Do you seriously think that in March 1939 anything could stop USSR from occupying Finland? If only your democratically elected government had some common sence and agreed to lend Hanko in 1939 - the whole war could be avoided. It's another question, and I already said my attitude many times.
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« Reply #245 on: October 22, 2005, 12:07:48 PM »
For Russian speaking people, another masterpiece by Koshkin at Military-Historical Forum: http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/archive/1060/1060743.htm

I spilled my beer all over my keyboard reading it :D
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« Reply #246 on: October 22, 2005, 12:34:35 PM »
Boroda as previously stated that democracy exists only in your propaganda books. You dealt the baltic in the Molotov-Rippentrop agreement with Nazi Germany. Several countries were annexed with the exclusion of Finland who put up a fight.

Why is that Boroda? Why didn't we get annexed like the other Baltic countries?

Which part of this example of 'the western view' speaks about democratic decisions? Rofl!

You're still a comedy gold Boroda. I'd laugh harder if I didn't know you believe in that stuff.

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On September 17, 1939, the Soviet Red Army invaded the eastern regions of Poland. The Soviets were acting in co-operation with Nazi Germany, carrying out their part of the secret appendix of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (the division of Europe into Nazi and Soviet spheres of influence), which secured Hitler's right flank, and allowed him to concentrate on attacking the Allies, without worrying about Soviet Russia to the east. In view of this unexpected Soviet aggression, the Polish government and its high command decided that the defence of the Romanian bridgehead was no longer feasible and ordered the evacuation of all troops to neutral Romania. By the beginning of October, Germany and the Soviet Union had completely overrun Poland.


Know what Boroda? This makes Soviet Union a direct nazi ally.
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« Reply #247 on: October 22, 2005, 12:42:14 PM »
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Why is that Boroda? Why didn't we get annexed like the other Baltic countries?

Old Russian joke:

Two cowboys are talking in a saloon.
First: "Have you heard the news? The Uncatchable Joe was seen around the town!"
Second: "Really? Is he really uncatchahable? Nobody could really catch him ever?"
First: "Nah. Nobody really cared to"
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« Reply #248 on: October 22, 2005, 12:54:34 PM »
If you didn't care, why lose tens of thousands of men on our frontier?
If you didn't care, why did you annex all those other countries written down in the very same Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement?

Shows quite a discontent on your population to waste thousands and thousands of men on to something you don't care about. :eek:

Why were the first troops back in 1939 carrying banners celebrating the liberation of Finland? :huh
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« Reply #249 on: October 22, 2005, 01:19:19 PM »
Finaly USSR got what she asked.

Finland was given an offer of  territory excange. There was no demand to join USSR at the first place. First stage of the war was almost catastrophic that's truth. The war could be avoided had Finns agreed to accept the offer.

I think that offer was fair given the fact that Finland was a hostile neighbour  dreaming about Greater Finland. Finland once already declared war on Soviet Russia in 1918 and occupied part of Soviet teritory and then after treaty many times Finnish paramilitary troops invaded us. So there was a serious fear that in the future great war Finland would join anti-Soviet coalition.
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« Reply #250 on: October 22, 2005, 01:21:29 PM »
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Know what Boroda? This makes Soviet Union a direct nazi ally.


Let's do not touch USSR this time. The direct nazi ally was Finland. Or you forgot this heroic moment? Or you forgot finnish concentration camps near Petrozavodsk?
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« Reply #251 on: October 22, 2005, 01:24:36 PM »
Finland was a nazi ally. USSR wasn't.

Go read that so-called "secret protocols". Then look on the map. Think a little. Try to grok what's wrong :D /*I do know what's the trick, but reading the actual "document" may be really eye-opening for people who turn on their critical thinking for the first time*/ Hint: "Northern border of Lithuania".

I understand that you are protecting that so-called "baltic states" because if USSR didn't take them in 1940 - then nazis could use them as a beach-head against Leningrad, so Finns could remain in Karelia in case USSR lost a war.

I admit that Finnish war was an act of aggression committed by USSR, but you have to understand that all Soviet pre-war politics was aimed at survival.

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« Reply #252 on: October 22, 2005, 01:37:09 PM »
Can you please close this one Skuzzy?

It has been hijacked, and the issue it adressed has been solved.


Thank you. :)
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« Reply #253 on: October 22, 2005, 01:39:44 PM »
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Can you please close this one Skuzzy?

It has been hijacked, and the issue it adressed has been solved.


Thank you. :)


Aaaaa, don't spoil the song!!! ;)
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« Reply #254 on: October 22, 2005, 01:41:06 PM »
Start a new thread.... its really easy. ;)
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