40 years ago.

[Daff]

"You might remember that there are entire generation of Russians that were taught from birth to hate Americans"

And an entire generation of Americans taught from birth to hate Russians..

Daff

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[Fatty]

To dismiss the entire cold war as simply two identical sides posturing is extremely ignorant.

[Fatty]

PS - Bad place for this argument anyway, this thread is about Yuri remember?

[Dowding]

My point, Toad, is that it was definitely not something to be proud about, like your favourtie team winning at whatever sport you follow. Inevitable? Who's to say, but I don't believe there was any real progress or achievement - more like coming full circle.

Eastern Europe is as free as it was in 1930 and, like then, Russia has had a new government for about 10 years.

Globally, things have changed, but I'm not sure if it's for the better. Hopefully that will be the case.

You seem to optimistic about the lessons learned. But I don't see that, I see a world rapidly running out of resources, while trying to control a population explosion already out of control in many parts of the world. Resource limitation has always been a source of conflict, and I can't see that ever changing.

I'm worried about it, because certain things are going to come to a head, probably in my lifetime and quite definitely in my children's.

[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by Fatty:
To dismiss the entire cold war as simply two identical sides posturing is extremely ignorant.

You mean there was a more noble cause? Hell... I thought we did it because war is good business.  

Worked for some things... After all, the U.S. is the world's biggest arms exporter.

I can't complain... warfare and paranoid republikans help pay for my house, my cars, this computer... yadda yadda yadda

[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by Daff:
"You might remember that there are entire generation of Russians that were taught from birth to hate Americans"

And an entire generation of Americans taught from birth to hate Russians..

Daff

Hey Daff... which generation was that?  

[Fatty]

Yes, the Berlin Airlift was solely so that hopefully someday we could sell them ammunition.

[Toad]

Fatty,

You are right. Wrong thread. So, I'll hold off. I'm certain there will be yet another opportunity.  

[easymo]

 You can take anything out of context and make it sound different from what was intended.

 If you read the posts before mine. And my entire post. It should be obvious that I was talking to the "we won the cold war" people.

 America has a bad habit of decimating its military between wars. This, for example, led to the unnecessary deaths of many American service men at the beginning of WW2.

 My point was, our potential enemys are still very well armed. The Russians didn't shove billions of dollars worth of hardware into a hole, and cover it up. They still are capable of waging war. And unfortunately so are many others.

  History has proven they wont leave us alone because they love peace. And they sure as hell aren't going to do it because the love Americans.  Our best hope for peace, is a very healthy respect for our military's capability.

[This message has been edited by easymo (edited 04-16-2001).]