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« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2005, 12:57:01 PM »
So, Wulfe what you are saying is that:

"I regret that I have but one life to give to my country"
"Make way for liberty!"
"My choice is to stay in this fort and die for my country, fighting as long as breath should remain in my body"
"Tell the men to fire faster and not to give up the ship; fight her till she sinks."

Are all "disgusting", because they were the last words of fallen men who died in a cause and were used to rally others behind that (often unpopular) cause?

I'll confess I sometimes don't know what frightens me more, the prospect that the Jihadis will be successful or that we have become a culture that no longer believes in truth or absolutes and consequently feels nothing is worth dying for any longer.

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« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2005, 01:11:10 PM »
The way they were being potatod out? Yes, it is disgusting.
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« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2005, 01:12:43 PM »
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in a sense nash you could say we 101st keyboarders are fighting an important war back home......


Yes, but the most danger you'll face is a blister on your thumb. Or perhaps spilling coffee on your shorts in a fit of self-righteous indignation.

Hardly road-side bombs and RPGs so don't even try to reach a parallel there. For whatever reason, Yeager, you've never served your country - like most people. Accept that like any normal person would and maintain some credibility.
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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2005, 01:15:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Seagoon
So, Wulfe what you are saying is that:

"I regret that I have but one life to give to my country"
"Make way for liberty!"
"My choice is to stay in this fort and die for my country, fighting as long as breath should remain in my body"
"Tell the men to fire faster and not to give up the ship; fight her till she sinks."

Are all "disgusting", because they were the last words of fallen men who died in a cause and were used to rally others behind that (often unpopular) cause?

I'll confess I sometimes don't know what frightens me more, the prospect that the Jihadis will be successful or that we have become a culture that no longer believes in truth or absolutes and consequently feels nothing is worth dying for any longer.

- SEAGOON


You're comparing those quotes to "Mission Accomplished"?

And how do you equate not agreeing to invading a country under manipulated pretenses to a culture that feels nothing is worth dying for?

I know what frightens me more and most of it is contained in this thread.

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« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2005, 02:05:36 PM »
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So, Wulfe what you are saying is that:

"I regret that I have but one life to give to my country"
"Make way for liberty!"
"My choice is to stay in this fort and die for my country, fighting as long as breath should remain in my body"
"Tell the men to fire faster and not to give up the ship; fight her till she sinks."

Are all "disgusting", because they were the last words of fallen men who died in a cause and were used to rally others behind that (often unpopular) cause?

I'll confess I sometimes don't know what frightens me more, the prospect that the Jihadis will be successful or that we have become a culture that no longer believes in truth or absolutes and consequently feels nothing is worth dying for any longer.

- SEAGOON


Well, you don't know what he really thought, only what he allegedly left for his girlfriend to have to read in case he died.  So using the dead man that you are making assumptions about is pathetic regardless of what your personal beliefs are.

Also, if you look at how the Bush admin has manipulated people and their sacrifice in this war--like Pat Tillman who the military patently lied to you about--then there is good reason to suspect the motivation of the admin and the military.  

Heaven's, how do we know the military did not plant the letter or rewrite it?  They planted several here in the states in papers.

Why do you believe everything you're told to believe? Especially regarding things they have lied about to us recently?

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« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2005, 02:57:12 PM »
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Fundamental Islam is not the greatest threat to this country.  If you think it is, you are buying it hook, line, and sinker.

 




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« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2005, 03:21:22 PM »
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islamn or death thats thier motto


WalMart has a motto too, should I fear them as well?

Here's the deal.  We go into Afghanistan because they directly housed and aided the people that planned and carried out the attack on our country.  The rest of the world, including much of Islam, can buy that and can understand that.  We don't look like crusaders.  We retain credibility.  I'm for that.  We probably use to it's best effect, our ability to project power across the globe.

We go into Iraq for reasons that have shown to be a stretch at best and an outright fabrication atworst and we loose credibility.  We look like Crusaders.  We misuse and waste our projection of power.

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« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2005, 03:28:18 PM »
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says who - other than the left? the same left that for years before 2000 & beyond were screaming for us to do the same identical thing...

who is to say what might have happened if we were not fighting in Iraq?

I and many others I have spoken with feel Iraq was the right war, at the right time at the right place ... so sorry we didn't find you a nuke sitting on a launch pad pointing at DC, so sorry it hasn't wrapped up nice and neat like the latest episode of of your fav 30 minute sitcom

the men & women dying over there are dying for noble and just cause. to spin it otherwise is spitting on their graves IMO. The dems want control back so bad, they are willing to belittle everyone and everything that is right & good in this country to get it...


E I know you watch and read the news. It isnt just the left that is saying that the pres blundered.........
The Reps will do anything to keep control. I dont see how that is different than the Dems wanting control?
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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2005, 03:32:13 PM »
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WalMart has a motto too, should I fear them as well?


As a matter of fact... :eek:
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« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2005, 05:17:27 PM »
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WalMart has a motto too, should I fear them as well?

Here's the deal.  We go into Afghanistan because they directly housed and aided the people that planned and carried out the attack on our country.  The rest of the world, including much of Islam, can buy that and can understand that.  We don't look like crusaders.  We retain credibility.  I'm for that.  We probably use to it's best effect, our ability to project power across the globe.

We go into Iraq for reasons that have shown to be a stretch at best and an outright fabrication atworst and we loose credibility.  We look like Crusaders.  We misuse and waste our projection of power.


SO you don't think Radical Islamofacism is a threat to the security of our nation.  

It may have not been the reason's for going into Iraq but elements of our enemys are there now.  They are spreading out and networking all over the globe.  If you don't think that Radical Islam isn't a threat to world peace you are sadly mistaken.

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« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2005, 05:18:59 PM »
Only in America would liberals fear a successful corporation more than fundamental terrorists.:huh :cry

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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2005, 05:52:47 PM »
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I'll confess I sometimes don't know what frightens me more, the prospect that the Jihadis will be successful or that we have become a culture that no longer believes in truth or absolutes and consequently feels nothing is worth dying for any longer.

- SEAGOON



I'm more afraid of the Bible Thumpers in this country.   They are a greater threat to our Freedom than some guy that wears a towel in his head and lives in some tent in the Middle East.


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« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2005, 06:14:37 PM »
I'm more afraid of the Bible Thumpers in this country.

They are a greater threat to our Freedom than some guy that wears a towel in his head and lives in some tent in the Middle East.


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« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2005, 06:31:47 PM »
Stringer :aok

nice to see some are not blindet by the media or the present Leadership.
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« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2005, 07:00:12 PM »
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SO you don't think Radical Islamofacism is a threat to the security of our nation.  

It may have not been the reason's for going into Iraq but elements of our enemys are there now.    


DING DING DING....we have a winner.   Our mis-action in Iraq certainly put those elements in place AFTER we invaded.