Hi Stringer,
Alright, I'll play that game.
Originally posted by Stringer
I think Seagoon is onto something with this profiling thing.
According to his strawman, Christians should be profiled and searched for pipe bombs since they are the ones that bomb clinics. And are responsible for terror attacks on our OWN soil against American Citizens, which have resulted in the deaths of AMERICAN CITIZENS!
We'll start with your congregation, Seagoon. I mean, it's not a problem for your congregation to give up some of it's liberties to make American Citizens safer from pipe bomb attacks, which have happened with more frequency than Islamic attacks on our soil.
BTW, I'm a christian, so don't waste your time thinking I'm not a believer in God.
I like your strawman now.
Since 2001 there have been zero murders at abortion clinics, and a grand total of 8 attempted bombings or arsons. Also clinic "Blockades" dropped from a high of 201 in 1989 to 4 in 2004 (the last year for which data was available). Apparently the draconian laws muzzling free speech, bringing in federal protection, and the threat and occasional application of harsh fines and prison sentences had the desired effect. Direct action against clinics has almost disappeared. All of this is not exactly an argument against using new laws against "terrorism."
If we were to view this as a "Christian insurgency" apparently either the forces were defeated, they got bored (that's
so early 90s), or they were actually pacified by regime change. However, this is one example of violence in pursuit of a goal that has definitely fizzled.
By comparison the total number of terror attacks perpetrated by Muslims in the name of Islam since 9/11/2001 currently stands at 4007 with thousands and thousands killed all over the world including USA, Great Britain, Spain, Indonesia, Holland, Italy, etc.
So, we aren't actually talking rocket science here. Combing my congregation, or the other evangelical congregations of America is going to be a fruitless endeavor, we manifestly aren't making pipe bombs. However, as British authorities found to their horror following the London bombings, a disproportionately high number of Mosques in the west have active terror cells in their midst. Additionally, a
2005 Freedom House Report entitled "SAUDI PUBLICATIONS ON HATE IDEOLOGY FILL AMERICAN MOSQUES" found that as the title suggests American mosques are literally filled with literature preaching Jihad, Anti-Americanism, and unmitigated hatred towards all infidels. Freedom House is a non-partisan, non-sectarian civil rights org, so they have no "secret agenda" here. So where would your resources be better spent, chasing phantoms founded on faulty presuppositions, or dealing with the people actually doing the killing?
I know, I know, evidence shmevidence, all religions are equally bad you must be a terrorist because you're a fundamentalist, the crusades, the KKK, etc.
- SEAGOON