Bish?

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Well those are some damn nice rationalizations.

The ease of barracks and ordinance porking allows one unskilled player way, way too much influence on the flow of the arena. What cracks me up is to see enemy Tiffies and La7's pass right over unescorted bombers to go pork a field. Maybe instead of having 4 or 5 people out in space trying to suicide themselves onto a toolshed they could, like, you know, shoot at the enemy planes coming in instead.

What influence..  I think the balance is rather good in that respect. The attacking Hoard simply re-arms said goonage. This isnt even a lagitimate claim in the big picture sir. PS..i pork in the face of the Hoard and survive 99% of the time. No suicide tactic is required to get it done. Just good planning.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
What influence..  I think the balance is rather good in that respect. The attacking Hoard simply re-arms said goonage. This isnt even a lagitimate claim in the big picture sir. PS..i pork in the face of the Hoard and survive 99% of the time. No suicide tactic is required to get it done. Just good planning.

Oh I know it can be done - hell, I used to do the most amazing radar-runs Back In The Day.

But the vast majority of people porking stuff today do not survive the trip. Many auger, due to one kind of suckage or another. Any many seem to take more than one pass to kill a Port-a-Potty - and that second pass is where they usually get consumed.

[Spiked]

Any many seem to take more than one pass to kill a Port-a-Potty

Damn it Dok ... this is a serious discussion .. no more making me spit ma damn beer all over.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Zazen13
The point is 'winning' for most people in the game isn't winning the resets. "Winning" for most people is enjoying good fights and having fun. Being on the defensive is far more conducive to 'winning thru fun-factor' than being on  the steamrolling side.

Steamrolling  = BIG YAWN....El Boringo

Defensive = Non-stop targets and non-stop action if you play accordingly.

Very few people actually switch sides. Check the roster next time a reset is near, I challenge you to find more than 5 people that switched just prior to reset. The more common thing is for people of the beleugered team to simply log-off, which further exacerbates the numerical disparity.

Zazen

So are "YOU" having fun yet? are you "Most" people?

[ChopSaw]

Originally posted by Zazen13
The point is 'winning' for most people in the game isn't winning the resets. "Winning" for most people is enjoying good fights and having fun. Being on the defensive is far more conducive to 'winning thru fun-factor' than being on  the steamrolling side.

Steamrolling  = BIG YAWN....El Boringo

Defensive = Non-stop targets and non-stop action if you play accordingly.

Very few people actually switch sides. Check the roster next time a reset is near, I challenge you to find more than 5 people that switched just prior to reset. The more common thing is for people of the beleugered team to simply log-off, which further exacerbates the numerical disparity.

Zazen

Your point of view is idealistic.  People play the way they play.  It's got less to do with ideals and more to do with the more common denominators.  For them being on the winning side is the fun part.  It is simply human nature to like winning.  It is a positive associative experience.  They like being part of the “steam rolling” side.  I think the trees are obscuring your view of the forest on this one and you’re not seeing the reality of the situation.

I’m not saying people are switching just prior to the reset in numbers, though there are those that do.  What I’m saying is people are viewing the trends and seeing who is winning most lately and gradually the numbers build up on that side.  It is not an instant “wow I’d better switch because x is going to win”.  It is a “I’m tired seeing those other guys win all the time and I’m joining them”.

[ChopSaw]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Well those are some damn nice rationalizations.

The ease of barracks and ordinance porking allows one unskilled player way, way too much influence on the flow of the arena. What cracks me up is to see enemy Tiffies and La7's pass right over unescorted bombers to go pork a field. Maybe instead of having 4 or 5 people out in space trying to suicide themselves onto a toolshed they could, like, you know, shoot at the enemy planes coming in instead.

Then you advocate the elimination of strategic targets.  Let's make ordnance and barracks invulnerable or let them pop back up after 15 minutes.  Better yet, lets eliminate gv's and bombers altogether.  Make it a fighter only game.  While we're at it eliminate the ability to take bases.  That just gets in the way of the fighter aircraft having a good time.  It'll be one big furball for all and nothing but furball 24/7.  Oh...wait a minute.  That sounds like the Axis versus Allies I saw just recently.  They had maybe up to 20 pilots on at one time.  Most often it seemed to be half a dozen.  I'm sure they had fun.

I fly bombers and I use them to do what needs to be done for my team to help us gain bases or to stop others from gaining ours.  It isn't a suicide run.  Anybody wants to come up and get me is going to get shot at and if they don't know what they're doing, they're meat on my table.  When fighters pass me by it's because they're on their way to a specified target or responsibility.  They by pass me to achieve their goal.  Whatever it is.  Not because they can't wait to pork some field, but because they're sticking to their assigned task and getting the job done.  That's dedication to team.  Not passion for porking just to pork.

Look up the definition of rationalization.  My statements don’t meet the criteria set out in said definition and I find your condescension amusing.

[SuperDud]

I disagree

[ChopSaw]

Originally posted by SuperDud
I disagree

So do I, but I specify what I disagree with.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by KTM520guy
Where are all the bish at?
 

I can`t speak for where everyone is all the time, but I can give ya statistics on the last time I logged on. There were 128 Bish online. Two were asking repeatedly what the procedure was for taking off. Two couldn`t grasp the concept that E started the engine. Four were having trouble understanding the directions that was being given to them on how to use Vox. One of these was asking on VOX. Ten of the remainder was in the tower using channel two hundred to proclaim their knowledge on why Bish sucked so bad. Ten more was using country channel from the tower trying to get the first ten to change countries if they didn`t like Bish.  Five were passed out on autoclimb off map.
Twenty were in tank town doing the "Bomber dweebs in TT suck" routine on channel 200. One was attacking a V base in a SpitV. There was a long term generals meeting that went on for hours tryin to reach an agreement on which to run missions to , Rooks or Knights. That consisted of 70 generals. The other four of us were furballing in goons.
I don`t understand it either. We seem to be pretty organized for a team.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by ChopSaw
Then you advocate the elimination of strategic targets.  [...] Make it a fighter only game.  While we're at it eliminate the ability to take bases.  [...]

Did I say that? Any of that? No.

Do these kinds of Intardnet tactics work on other boards?

There is a vast difference between 2 or 3 people launching bomber flights together, heading to an enemy field, and bombing base facilities ... and these same three people launching from where ever, dribbling their way over to that same base, avoiding any enemy planes on the way, even those about to hit a friendly base, not helping any friendly in trouble, reaching said enemy base and augering their pathetic hides into the nearest outhouse.

If you can't see the difference, then you have demonstrated why a side can stay on the butt-end of the MA for a long, long while.

[Mugzeee]

Chopy..SD isnt going to specifiy anything. Hes just trying to keep the fire lit.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
Chopy..SD isnt going to specifiy anything. Hes just trying to keep the fire lit.

I agree

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Did I say that? Any of that? No.

Do these kinds of Intardnet tactics work on other boards?

There is a vast difference between 2 or 3 people launching bomber flights together, heading to an enemy field, and bombing base facilities ... and these same three people launching from where ever, dribbling their way over to that same base, avoiding any enemy planes on the way, even those about to hit a friendly base, not helping any friendly in trouble, reaching said enemy base and augering their pathetic hides into the nearest outhouse.

If you can't see the difference, then you have demonstrated why a side can stay on the butt-end of the MA for a long, long while.

Well...actually at one time or another you have not in so many words. Need we dig it up?

[ChopSaw]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Did I say that? Any of that? No.

Do these kinds of Intardnet tactics work on other boards?

There is a vast difference between 2 or 3 people launching bomber flights together, heading to an enemy field, and bombing base facilities ... and these same three people launching from where ever, dribbling their way over to that same base, avoiding any enemy planes on the way, even those about to hit a friendly base, not helping any friendly in trouble, reaching said enemy base and augering their pathetic hides into the nearest outhouse.

If you can't see the difference, then you have demonstrated why a side can stay on the butt-end of the MA for a long, long while.

You suggested it by your denigration of those who "pork" strats.  You didn't allow for any strategic validity to the practice and you did in fact typify those who do so as "tards".

By the way....nice way to work your favorite word into the conversation.  "Intertardnet".  New one on me

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Jackal1
I can`t speak for where everyone is all the time, but I can give ya statistics on the last time I logged on. There were 128 Bish online. Two were asking repeatedly what the procedure was for taking off. Two couldn`t grasp the concept that E started the engine. [...] That consisted of 70 generals. The other four of us were furballing in goons.
I don`t understand it either. We seem to be pretty organized for a team.

Damn ... I gotta start tuning 200.