Global Warming... is THIS how we'll perish?

[GtoRA2]

We should start a new environmentalist craze!

Off yourself for the earth!  


Then people so concerned about this can kill themselves, and maybe if we are lucky all their offspring as well.  What kind of selfish ****** has kids when the death of the human race is so close?  Parents should not be allowed to call themselves environmentalists!

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Angus
Ehh:
"On the reverse side of that, there is also no excuse to start experimenting with the earth to fix a problem that has not been proven or at the very least so little understood."

The problem seems to be a fact.
It was predicted to happen and seems to work.
So?

"Seems to be" being the key word in your sentence.
It may very well seem to be fact to you. It seems to be a natural cycle and weather pattern changes that have happned many times to me.
As for the "It was predicted to happen" statement. .... It was predicted that the whole world was going to be in for some really bad times at the stroke of midnight at the beginning of 2000. Didn`t notice it. It was predicted, when I was a kid that we would nuclear war within five years or so and a big portion of earht`s population would be wiped out. Didn`t happen. Now we are full circle again and a nuclear strike seems more feasible and believable to me than global warming wiping us out. It is predicted that if a nuclear war doesn`t beat it to the punch a super volcanoe will have the same effect. Another ice age is predicted. On and on and on and on.
You asked "So?". Don`t get it. So what?
We`re not gonna make it out of here alive.

[Debonair]

Maybe its all the hot wind that comes out of people's mouths that cause global warming.

[Angus]

So it is a coincidense that scientists predicted something to happen in a rather short time compared to earths normal cycles, and then PRESTO, it happens?
Just wait along and enjoy the ride then. By the time the thickest of heads realize that this is actually happening it's probably too late to do much "fixing" about it.

[beet1e]

A few hours after my last post, I read that day's paper and found this interesting article.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/04/dl0402.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/04/04/ixopinion.html

In its patient, pragmatic approach to the generation of electricity by nuclear power, Finland has much to teach the rest of Europe.

In this country, the review headed by Malcolm Wicks, the energy minister, and the government-appointed Committee on Radioactive Waste Management are due to publish their recommendations later this year.

Sweden, which decided in 1980 to phase out nuclear power generation, has decided to upgrade some reactors to compensate for the closure of others. A debate along similar lines is under way in Germany.

The wish to cut CO2 emissions, the rapid rise in fossil fuel prices and heightened concern about the security of gas and oil imports have all contributed to a revaluation of nuclear plants as a source of electricity.

In this, Finland has been a pioneer. The radioactive shadow of Chernobyl contributed in 1993 to the rejection by parliament of a fifth nuclear plant. But a similar proposal gained a narrow majority (107 votes to 92) in 2002, the first such decision in western Europe for more than a decade. [See what I mean when I said "Only when crude oil starts to run out and gets so expensive to extract that a gallon of gas passes the $10 mark will people get concerned, and all the opposition to nuclear plants will mysteriously evaporate... " ??? It's started already in Finland. And the underlying cause? - a very ugly 4-letter word beginning with C and ending in T - Cost. - Beet]

The plant, Okiluoto 3, is expected to be in operation around 2009. As for spent fuel, the operators of the current facilities, TVO and Fortum, have undertaken to excavate a repository 1,640ft down in igneous rock.

TVO, which is building the fifth reactor, is a public-private partnership, in which the forestry giants UPM-Kymmene and Stora Enso and the state-controlled energy group Fortum, all heavy consumers, are major shareholders. The state has also established a waste management fund from charges on generated electricity.

Having taken fright after Chernobyl, Finland is set to increase the nuclear share of electricity supply from 26 per cent to 36 per cent.

Plans for storing waste fuel are well advanced. Paavo Lipponen, who was the Social Democratic prime minister at the time of the 2002 vote and is now parliamentary speaker, ascribes the change of heart to thorough public consultation set in the broadest possible perspective.

There are lessons here both for Britain, which has long shirked difficult decisions on nuclear energy, and for Germany, where the debate is excessively emotional.

[lazs2]

well... it still seems pretty darn funny to me that none of the chicken littles here...

have any suggestions for a solution.

It would seem that they are fine with us continueing on the same path as we are allready on...

either we are doing the right thing or.... doing the wrong thing won't matter in any case.

I tend to agree with the latter.

lazs

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Angus
So it is a coincidense that scientists predicted something to happen in a rather short time compared to earths normal cycles, and then PRESTO, it happens?

Short term weather pattern and cycle predictions wouldn`t be much of hill for a stepper. Try to predict long term is the show stopper. Can`t be done because there are too many unknowns.

Just wait along and enjoy the ride then.

Been a helluva ride so far.

By the time the thickest of heads realize that this is actually happening it's probably too late to do much "fixing" about it.

Possibly......or the "Sky Is Falling For Lunch Bunch" will figure out that they were full of horse frisbees.

[beet1e]

What is this nonsense about small chickens? Hasn't reached here yet...


Lazs - see my article, and see what Finland is doing. IMO, they're headed in the right direction, though I would like to see better solutions to dealing with nuclear waste than shoving it down a hole.

[Angus]

"well... it still seems pretty darn funny to me that none of the chicken littles here...

have any suggestions for a solution."

Please feel free to:

1. Promote one yourself

2. Read the thread again where there indeed are some.

[salt101]

Long before the next Ice Age happens the Moon will make its departure.  This will end life on Earth before the next Ice Age happens.

The Moon departure is real and easily verified.  The weather stuff is still somewhat more art than science and almost impossible to pin down.

I could care less about the so-called "global warming".  Seems it is going to happen in spite of us amd mankind will all be dead once the Moon makes its departure.  Hmmm.  Mankind just does not stand much of a chance at all.

What??????

[Meatwad]

What??????

Good job punting a 9 year old thread

[-ammo-]

LOL - bad AH BBS behavior which, will be rewarded with a lock.


Having said that, it is interesting to read Skuzzy's comments about the moon "departing" as inevitable.

[Chris79]

[WaffenVW]

Yeah the moon will leave us in about 50 billion years from now, 45 billion years after the Sun has grown weary of our shenanigans and become a red giant. We're just coming out of an ice age and the next won't be for some tens of thousands of years, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[SysError]

LOL - bad AH BBS behavior which, will be rewarded with a lock.


Having said that, it is interesting to read Skuzzy's comments about the moon "departing" as inevitable.

I do not know about the moon, but from time to time some theory about the warming of the planets, Mars, Jupiter and/or Pluto (before its relegation) comes up.  Somehow, and I am not really sure I can remember how, this, according some, disproves climate change.

Oh, and the Sun is doing something important in all of this, but I don’t remember what.