Author Topic: How high are $$$ now (Read 7578 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #15 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:51:55 AM »

Jackal, I don't deny that the oil companies are "opportunists", but your account is an oversimplification. If the only factor was oil company greed, and the events around the world had nothing to do with it, why would the oil companies wait until now to "price gouge", as you put it? They could have simply put up prices at any time. But no, it's happening now. And there are reasons as to why it's happening now.

Sure, there are times when the oil companies won't offload when they know the price is about to go up - that's not rocket science either, and you'd do the same thing if you were in the oil business. Back in the 1973 OPEC crisis, I even remember filling stations remaining closed here because they knew the fuel in their underground tanks would be worth much more in a couple of days after the price rise...

...but by the same token, the oil companies and filling stations have got to purchase their supplies at the new, higher price. If they sell all they have now at a price which meets your approval, how are they then going to restock once these OPEC countries have cut production and cranked up the prices? There would be a cash shortfall - where are the oil companies supposed to find that extra money to bridge the gap?

DiabloTX · « **Reply #16 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:56:18 AM »

Well I also heard about how Russia and South America wanted to sell us umpteengagillion barrels of oil just waiting for shipment. To be honest, I ain't that worried about it anymore...pissed about yes but I'll still sleep tonight. I moved 52 miles closer to work, no more 110-mile round trips to work and back for me, and that was even with a car that got over 30 mpg on the highway. Remember back in the 70's with the gas prices and then in the mid '80s I remember paying around 58 cents a gallon. Never could understand how it went from being so "scarce" to so abundant and cheap so quickly.

<---always wanted to do that!!!

Debonair · « **Reply #17 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:59:40 AM »

Congratulations

Jackal1 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:18:49 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
why would the oil companies wait until now to "price gouge", as you put it?

ROFLMAO

Where ya been the last 30 or 40 years? On another planet/
They haven`t waited "until now".
It`s the Ma Bell syndrome.
I find it hard to beleive that any human being can possibly be as gullible as you come off in your posts. ( I`m beginning to convert

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when you leave a wolf to guard the hen house, you better have plenty of chickens you are willing to give up.

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Sure, there are times when the oil companies won't offload when they know the price is about to go up - that's not rocket science either

The prices at the time had no reason to "go up" other than the fact that a "shortage" was being created due to not allowing the tankers to offload. There was no shortage. It was manipulated into one.
Another little crazy fact was more recent . Katrina. Sure there was going to be a shortage after that, but not a long one. Also the west coast is not dependent on gulf oil. The prices went up just the same.

beet1e · « **Reply #19 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:50:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
ROFLMAO

Where ya been the last 30 or 40 years? On another planet/
They haven`t waited "until now".
It`s the Ma Bell syndrome.
I find it hard to beleive that any human being can possibly be as gullible as you come off in your posts.

OK, Smart Man. So why has this thread appeared NOW?? Were there any gas price whine threads last month? February? If you can find any on this board, I'll read them.

So tell me, Mr Oil-Industry-Expert, what price do YOU think they should be charging for gas at the pump? What do YOU think is fair? And, if your situation is so grossly unfair and the costs so exorbitant, how do you explain that some people (see my earlier link) positively revel in driving huge trucks that get 12mpg on a good day?

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Also the west coast is not dependent on gulf oil.

LOL - did you say... gullible?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:06:47 AM »

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OK, Smart Man.

Thanks. Proud you are finaly seeing the light.

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So why has this thread appeared NOW?? Were there any gas price whine threads last month? February? If you can find any on this board, I'll read them.

And this pertains to what?
Your question was........................

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If the only factor was oil company greed, and the events around the world had nothing to do with it, why would the oil companies wait until now to "price gouge", as you put it? They could have simply put up prices at any time

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So tell me, Mr Oil-Industry-Expert

A l`il touchy and prissy today?

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how do you explain that some people (see my earlier link) positively revel in driving huge trucks that get 12mpg on a good day?

Other than envy, this pertains to you how again?

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Here is a clue......................... ....................

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LOL - did you say... gullible?

Why, as a matter of fact, I did.

storch · « **Reply #21 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:09:38 AM »

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ROFL! Why do these gas price whines always originate in the land-o-plenty - cheap gas and all that? When do you ever see me whine about the cost of road fuel? Hardly ever. And why's that then, given that road fuel here is the most expensive in the world? Hint - try driving vehicles that get sensible mileage, ie. 40+ mpg...

Storch - you should have your diesel truck by now - how's that working out for you? Doesn't look like your Monster will be worth much in the coming climate...

I had to purchase an excavator unexpectedly so with the possibility of a paycut looming ( I pay myself last ) I decided to forego the personal obligation at this time. funny anecdote, I was filling the expedition for frau storch and a eurotouro in a rental asked me how much fuel the truck consumed. I responded that it consumed every cent I put in it. He thought the reply was funny, I was being serious. fuel expense and all I'm happy with the truck but thankful it's not the daily driver.

beet1e · « **Reply #22 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:48:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Other than envy, this pertains to you how again?

Envy? Are you saying that I would like a 12mpg truck but... "can't afford it"? I'm not going to discuss with you my personal financial portfolio, but rest assured I could buy any of those monsters shown in that other thread. I choose not to. I drive a vehicle that is suited to my own needs, rather than one that is designed to massage (someone else's) ego.

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Here is a clue......................... ....................

ROFL, Jackall! Priceless! You must be the only guy on this board who, in the context of a discussion about oil, thinks of "The Gulf" as the one past the beach in Texas!

I can't wait to tell Curval!

:lol But then again, the cap fits - perfectly!

Of course, I was talking about "The Gulf". And... America (east/west/middle) is heavily dependent on this Gulf region for its oil.

aztec · « **Reply #23 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:50:54 AM »

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What I find is lamentable is that folks sometimes refuse to help themselves, but will whine on a BBS instead. I saw it in the game - people whining when "fluffs" duffed their radar or hangars. It would be wah-wah-wah on the GD forum. And we all know who the biggest whiner was. It never occurrs to these people to do something about it themselves.

I've seen it all now...If my memory serves me correctly your entrance to this BBs was a whine about lack of co-operation, teamwork etc. here.
After having met you in the MA the night before, (and calling your six, talking with you etc.), I found this to be incredible and think I responed to your whines about.

Funny but I seem to remember you as Scrmbl I believe, in WBs and don't remember the vitriolic pomposity that now regularly spews from you. ~~Sir.~~

Jackal1 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:06:48 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Envy? Are you saying that I would like a 12mpg truck but... "can't afford it"?

Nope and don`t know where you get that from?

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I'm not going to discuss with you my personal financial portfolio

Well, that`s a plus.

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You must be the only guy on this board who, in the context of a discussion about oil, thinks of "The Gulf" as the one past the beach in Texas!

That is where you would be very wrong. Most here are from the U.S. You might want to remember that.

Around these parts, when you speak of "the gulf", you are speaking of the G.O.M., not sandland. that`s your bag. When speaking of Katrina, I would think it would be quite clear to most everyone....well....maybe with the exception of you. Katrina hit the U.S. from the G.O.M. Remember the context? You can scroll up if you have to. Katrina/gulf oil. Getting clearer now?
Sheeesh!

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I can't wait to tell Curval!

A perfect couple.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:40:34 AM »

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I get the feeling beet1e is definately anti american.........

Ya think?
I wouldn`t worry about TV programming being interupted to show this as a late, breaking news falsh.

nirvana · « **Reply #26 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:58:26 AM »

Pffft, Viper is too young to drive, he was talking about his families boat (yacht perhaps?). I drive 1996 Ford Probe, 4 cylinder, 5 speed manual. Fuel mileage is all dependant on how I drive. If i'm feeling the need to gobble some fuel i'll "drag race" or othwerwise accelerate hard at stop lights. Normally i'll open windows for cool air, AC is a waste of gas, usually. I'll use more gas accelerating to get on the highway then I wil driving 30 minutes to get home.

beet1e · « **Reply #27 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:19:18 AM »

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That is where you would be very wrong. Most here are from the U.S. You might want to remember that. Around these parts, when you speak of "the gulf", you are speaking of the G.O.M., not sandland. that`s your bag.

The second sentence is correct. How can I ever forget.

I wouldn't be too disparaging towards the Middle East. It's their oil, after all, that makes it possible to drive 12mpg SUVs, should you feel so inclined. And... I would say that in the context of the oil business, which is what this thread is about, anyone talking about supplies from the Gulf would be talking about the Middle East. Of course, if you've never left texas, YMMV.

Nilsen · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:30:36 AM »

why do you guys bother going over this again and again and again

lazs2 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:38:58 AM »

beet... I don't think we will ever understand each other..... We simply do not think price gouging and taxation are right.

As a much needed resource becomes more scarce, it is natural that the price will increase... at a certain level even, oil that was not deemed "recoverable" because of cheaper middle east oil will suddenly become a viable source and prices should.... reflect what that source costs..

We are "whining" about the gouging and the taxes on fuel. No matter what the actual value... these things are wrong.

lazs