Author Topic: Child molester "too short" for prison (Read 1533 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #45 on:** May 28, 2006, 08:59:08 AM »

straffo.... do you believe that it is more humane to imprison someone for life and isolate him from all human contact so that he won't hurt others or be hurt by others?

Is it not more humane to put a rabid dog out of it's missery? The child molester is suffering and incurable. But the topper is... so long as he is alive he is danger to everyone around him... if he get's loose he will harm the most innocent among us and create more monsters like himself.

How is that the same as snatching innocent people at random and terrorizing them for weeks before painfuly beheading them in public?

One act is humane while the other is cruel and barborous. the simple fact that death is the end result in both cases does not make them the same.

lazs

uvwpvW · « **Reply #46 on:** May 28, 2006, 01:08:45 PM »

Child molesters like all sexual deviants are not incurable. Even so, most condemned child molesters are not even sexual deviants, only social deviants. The problem is a justice system unable to sentence people to medical treatment rather than incarceration or death. And thanks to close-minded people like Lazs here who only favor one punishment for most crimes, I don’t see the justice system being improved in the foreseeable future.

straffo · « **Reply #47 on:** May 28, 2006, 03:15:00 PM »

Well Laz , uvwpvW answered for me

Punishment + treatment is the only way or we would better sentence to death anyone a bit deviant.

Sixpence · « **Reply #48 on:** May 28, 2006, 08:09:01 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
child molesters are sick humans... their sickness causes them to do heinous crimes and... is incurable....

lazs

There is a cure, and you own several doses

SOB · « **Reply #49 on:** May 28, 2006, 08:29:15 PM »

Geritol?

Toad · « **Reply #50 on:** May 28, 2006, 08:36:25 PM »

Sex offender recidivism

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In addition, the long-term follow-up study (15-30 years)of child molesters showed that the average recidivism rate for this group of offenders is actually lower than the average recidivism rate for non-sexual offenders (61% versus 83.2% respectively for any new conviction).

Likelihood of Recidivism

The long term follow-up study referred to above included a control group of non-sexual criminals. The highest rate of recidivism (77%) was for those with previous sexual offences, who selected boy victims outside the family and who were never married.

In general, rapists reoffend more often than child molesters.

Among child molesters, those with male victims have been found to have the highest recidivism rates, followed by those with unrelated female victims.

Incest offenders show the lowest recidivism rates of all sexual offenders.

It's only 60% recidivism.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:27:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
There is a cure, and you own several doses

I think he's talking about a good sized dose of lead introduced into the bloodstream.

SOB · « **Reply #52 on:** May 29, 2006, 12:52:57 AM »

Wait, what? Are you sure?!

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #53 on:** May 29, 2006, 08:10:00 AM »

The problem is, 60% of them GETTING CAUGHT abusing CHILDREN is 60% TOO MANY.

No offense to you Toad, I know what you mean.

Toad · « **Reply #54 on:** May 29, 2006, 08:58:29 AM »

I personally think sex offenders/child molesters should be carefully evaluated, treated by professionals and released back into society when deemed "ready".

I think they should be given a new, fresh start and a chance to succeed. I think they should be given a government-paid house or an apartment right next to someone that thinks sex offenders/child molesters are "curable" with a low risk of recidivism.

lazs2 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 29, 2006, 10:27:40 AM »

recidivism is not proof or lack of proof of cure. Being caught is proof of recidivism tho. 60% is about the rate that most criminals are caught. I would also say that violent rapists should be executed also. I have no problem with that.

Child molesters are not curable... very few sexual deviations are.

Some would tell us that homosexuality is curable... I would dissagree but... homosexuality bettween consenting adults is quite another thing.

to see child molesters and violent rapists as "slightly deviant" and "curable" is dangerously ignorant. To see any cure other than execution being workable is dangerously ignorant.... To sentance them to prison for the rest of their life is at once cruel and.... wishful, ignorant thinking(thinking life in prison means never being a danger to man again)

I am not into torturing sick animals... leathal injection is the humane way to deal with these incurable and extremely dangerous sexual predators.

better luck in the next life.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 29, 2006, 10:30:43 AM »

I would go further toad. I would say that if a shrink deems a dangerous deviate cured and released....

That if that deviate goes back to his old ways... the shrink should pay the penalty. At the very least he should be sued (not his insurance) and lose his licence and be imprisoned.

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #57 on:** May 29, 2006, 11:14:38 AM »

Maybe we could make the shrink take him/her on as nanny to the shrink's children.

Brenjen · « **Reply #58 on:** May 29, 2006, 11:46:27 AM »

I know one thing, if I catch someone raping my wife or kids it is going to be an immediate sentence of death, no I'm sick or I need help.

So how would it be any different if they are arrested?

You look into the face of a 5 year old who is laying on her back with a grown man raping her & tell me death isn't appropriate.

Every picture of every child I see haunts me, when I see the smiles & the happiness that was ripped away from them,I can envision their innocent trust being shredded - Samantha Runion,carlie brucia,Consuelo Medina (21 months old & sodomized to death),Jessica Lunsford (A 9-year-old girl raped, bound and buried alive, kneeling and clutching a purple stuffed dolphin)

Why give a sub-human animal the right to life? I would lock them away under the death penalty & bring them out into a public viewing area everyday & place their head on a chopping block.

I would then proceed to go through all the motions of their execution, then swing the axe into the wood & tell them...maybe tomorrow. I would continue to do this until it either no longer phased them or they lost their mind at that point I would have them tortured to death in public medieval style.

No there is no punishment too "cruel & unusual" for such "cruel & unusual" animals.

uvwpvW · « **Reply #59 on:** May 29, 2006, 12:32:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Brenjen
Consuelo Medina (21 months old & sodomized to death),Jessica Lunsford (A 9-year-old girl raped, bound and buried alive, kneeling and clutching a purple stuffed dolphin)

Those are vicious murders. A different thing altogether.

What about Debra Lafave, the 23 year old blonde babe teacher who had sex with a 14 year old boy student. Should she be put to death? He is a child, but I don’t think he considers himself a victim if you know what I mean. The law must be equal for all.

Only the mildest of sex offenders can be treated with psychology alone. Most need hormone medication or even chemical neutering. If only the justice system were allowed to use those options instead of just jail time.