Originally posted by Angus
So, I guess that the above proves that despite the oceans warming and glacers and polar ice retreating, the whole thing just isn't happening
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No Angus. Don`t give up on your whole cause. Ice melts when weather patterns change and the temp becomes warmer. Water freezes and becomes ice when the weather patterns changes and the temp becomes colder. It`s always worked like that.
You just got to get over the fact the ice is melting and blaming it on a fairy tale. Then you will be all set.
Did you believe , perhaps, that ice never melts?
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MYTH #6: 'Sea level is Rising Quickly and it Will Get Worse if the Polar Ice Caps Melt Due to Global Warming. Coastal Settlements and Low-lying Islands Will be Submerged.'
Sea level has been rising naturally since the end of the last ice age and this has not accelerated recently The total rise has been over 120 metres and is still proceeding at a rate of about 18 cm per century. We don't see an increase in this rate during the strong warming that took place between 1900 and 1940 nor did the rate decrease when the climate cooled between 1940 and 1975.
According to Dr. Fred Singer, President of The Science & Environmental Policy Project, Distinguished Research Professor at George Mason University and Professor Emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia, ongoing sea level rise is due to the slow melting of Antarctic ice sheets that have been gradually disappearing for about 18,000 years, the date of the last glacial maximum. As far as we can tell from geological data, only temperature variations on a millennial time scale can affect this rate. Climate fluctuations lasting decades or even centuries are too short to affect this rate of melting appreciably. Our best estimate is that these ice sheets will continue to melt for another 5,000 to 7,000 years until they disappear. So unless another ice age commences in the meantime, sea level is bound to keep on rising and there is probably nothing that humans can do about this.
It is also important to understand that, just as the melting of ice cubes in a glass of water does not cause the glass to overflow, the melting of polar sea ice will not result in ocean level changes. Only if massive quantities of inland Antarctic and Greenland glaciers melted would sea levels raise enough to submerge coastal settlements. Dr. Patterson and University of Hawaii Professor of Earth Science Dr. Charles Fletcher maintain that this did not happen 5,500 years ago, when the Earth was three degrees warmer. They also explain that sea level was only two meters higher 120,000 years ago, when temperatures were almost six degrees warmer than now.
Ordinarily, small island-nations like the Maldives and Barbados are not threatened by such a rise. This is because these countries are built entirely on coral and coral fragments. This coral is continually, and quickly, growing upward and, unless something very bad happens to the natural environment in a region, no sea level rise is fast enough to get ahead of coral growth. The Maldivian reefs have been coping with increasing sea level for the past few thousand years and were even able to keep up when the ocean was rising ten times faster than it is now, 10,000 years ago.
Oceanographer Klaus Schwarzer of Christian Albrechts University in Germany explains that today's problems in the Maldives are caused by two factors - local pollution that is killing the reefs (as is the case in Barbados) and inappropriate construction projects. Barriers built out into the ocean to stop the drift of sediment away from the coast are disrupting the circulation of nutrient rich water to the reefs and killing them.
As a result, the Maldives islands are sinking. This has nothing to do with climate change and is the fault of the Maldivian government, which selected a barrier design maladapted for a coral atoll (it was designed for the rock-based Mediterranean Sea coast). Yet, Ismail Shafeeu, the Maldives' Minister of the Environment, still complains, "In the next hundred years or so, what the rest of the world does is going to determine whether we are going to be around or not. We need commitment on the part of people living in countries that are causing this problem. If these countries and the people living in these countries do not change their lifestyles in a way that will allow us to survive, they will have the murder of a nation on their hands." Clearly, Mr. Shafeeu is either misinformed about the science or is engaging in propaganda.
The Barbados has lost nearly all of their reefs due to runoff from their own agriculture. Their wells are becoming more salty simply because they are extracting so much water to irrigate crops that they are actually drawing sea water into their aquifers. As in the Maldives, its problems are caused by flawed domestic practices and have nothing to do with climate change.
If the U.N. and environmental groups are genuinely interested in solving environmental problems in the Maldives and other developing countries, then they should focus on their true causes. To do otherwise virtually guarantees these problems will continue, no matter how sensational an example it provides for climate change alarmists.