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Offline Yeager

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« on: September 15, 2006, 08:49:15 PM »
Is anyone surprised by muslim sensitivity anymore?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,1873914,00.html

Why cant muslims simply let people who arent muslim express themselves without fear of being threatened, harmed or killed?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 08:55:12 PM »
thats just not how they roll

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 11:14:40 PM »
I think they're watching you now Yeager.

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 12:25:53 AM »
What's the Dali Lama think?

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 01:22:44 AM »
There's a saying "****e don't stink if you don't touch it".
Well....stop touching it.....
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 01:31:56 AM »
their gonna have to sneak up on me.  Oh wait.........:O
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 08:19:38 AM »
I think the list of what they do like and/or tolerate is the much shorter list
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 08:24:58 AM »
It's a shame they caqn't get all upset about muslims killing other muslims over differing sects of the same religion. I'd love to see muslim protests in anger over being offended by other muslims killing folkls in the name of their religion.

That would impress me way more than this little diatribe over some imagined insult.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 08:40:53 AM »
A quote attributed to the "...spokesman for the Musharraf dispensation in Pakistan..." about the Pope's comments on Muhammad...

"Anyone who describes Islam as a religion of intolerant encourages violence".

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 09:03:24 AM »
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A quote attributed to the "...spokesman for the Musharraf dispensation in Pakistan..." about the Pope's comments on Muhammad...

"Anyone who describes Islam as a religion of intolerant encourages violence".

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 09:24:39 AM »
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You can't even make that stuff up! The above quote was in the Wallstreet Journal.:lol







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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 10:25:19 AM »
Distressingly even Turkey has complained about the remarks and Turkey is considered one of the more moderate Muslim nations.  I wish there was concrete evidence to tell what percentage of Muslims are seething over incidents like this and what percentage are shrugging it off.  Sentences like "Muslims are terrorists" make as much sense as "Catholics are child molesters".  See only some Muslims are terrorists and only some Catholic (priests) child molesters...:(  The troubling difference is while several in the Catholic religion would get HUGELY upset over a statement like that, they aren't gonna start blowing things up.
Don't forget however that even in America we have our share of home grown religious terrorists.  Don't forget the nutjobs that have been protesting at the funerals of those who have fallen in Iraq or the tard that was bombing abortion clinics.
Ironically the remarks by the Pope are essentially a condemnation of using violence to further your religion and these words should be given some consideration by EVERYONE.  Here is the offensive part of the speech:
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While the quote "ONLY things that are evil and inhuman..." is a bit excessive (imagine if you will a rabbi saying ALL the later teachings of Jesus were evil and inhuman), the problem is the focus on one word in one sentence and completely missing the point of the speech.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 10:48:35 AM »
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You can't even make that stuff up! The above quote was in the Wallstreet Journal.:lol







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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 12:31:18 PM »
I want to know when we are going to stop worrying about what the Muslims think about what we say, they sure don't bother to restrict themselves when it comes to speaking ill of Christians and Jews.  They dont hesitate to insult, degrade and threaten us, but we spend too much of our time worrying that we might have offended them.

Screw that.  Grow a spine all those apologists.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 01:03:34 PM »
In retrospect, yes - catholics are child molesters...:rolleyes:
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