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Offline BlkKnit

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 08:52:08 AM »
good lord son, she's goes out of her way to make the first guy feel guilty then claimed she had not said anything about hunting

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2006, 01:57:19 PM »
Ok fellers, found a few links that may help and hopefully they work:

http://kutv.com/local/local_story_300200339.html

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=628242

Apparently the guy at the stand had been caught transporting a poached deer for a friend. Ok yeah thats bad. Not a good thing to do.

It was his brother sitting in the court room who got upset with her when she started spouting her feelings at hunters as a whole and walked out.

The way I sees it is yeah the guy at the stand was in trouble and having his day in court, but she had no right to belittle the other fella for trying to stick up for himself and his legal rights to hunt.


She also had some other issues as well. She did get booted. Good Ridance.

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2006, 02:58:36 PM »
"large, explosive indication of your displeasure" are not allowed, :rofl

hereafter, she will be known as "judge bambi"
« Last Edit: November 08, 2006, 03:01:26 PM by john9001 »

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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2006, 05:48:53 PM »
If I posted what my thoughts were about the judge it would just be deleted.

so i will save some time...

deleted becaus eof rull #7;)

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2006, 07:24:06 PM »
looks like they are posting on Youtube that she lost her job because of this on 7 nov.

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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2006, 07:24:53 PM »
You guys dont spend much time in court do you?

A large % of judges are on power trips and belittle defendants, lawyers and folks in the gallery all the time, most of them are smart enough to not do it when cameras are present, this broad is a doofis.

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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2006, 09:19:52 PM »
Regardless of whether that judge was a bad one or not.  When you think about it, she could have used pretty much the same words even if she had been an avid deer hunter.  Deer hunters would want a poacher of trophy bucks to be put in jail, lol especially after hearing the brother talking about his hunting rights.

This is clear, those guys weren't hunting.  They deserve to have the book thrown at them if what they were doing was spotlighting deer in a field at night.




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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2006, 10:17:55 PM »
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Regardless of whether that judge was a bad one or not.  When you think about it, she could have used pretty much the same words even if she had been an avid deer hunter.  Deer hunters would want a poacher of trophy bucks to be put in jail, lol especially after hearing the brother talking about his hunting rights.

This is clear, those guys weren't hunting.  They deserve to have the book thrown at them if what they were doing was spotlighting deer in a field at night.




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From the video it appears she wanted to charge a guy for leaving her courtroom and that was it.  She asked the guy an opinionated question and then when he said something she didn't want to hear she wanted him arrested saying "I don't have to listen to this".

Like I allways tell my officers that I work for when they get offended by the pointed truth....."sir, never ask me a question that you might not want to know the answer too"

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2006, 10:29:58 PM »
So was she in the process of recuising herself like she said she was, or was she pontificating?  To me... it sounds like she was pontificating...  *and i'm a lefty!*

I'm proud of the dude for standing up to her... that took some nards.

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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2006, 12:19:01 AM »
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From the video it appears she wanted to charge a guy for leaving her courtroom and that was it.  She asked the guy an opinionated question and then when he said something she didn't want to hear she wanted him arrested saying "I don't have to listen to this".

Like I allways tell my officers that I work for when they get offended by the pointed truth....."sir, never ask me a question that you might not want to know the answer too"



The video was too short to really tell what was going on.  I got the impression they were caught poaching before I read the news link. I thought the guy that left was one of the witnesses/defendants?  They were there for circumstances involving a crime.  You can't just walk out.  When asked why he left, (a legitimate question,) he went on about his "hunting" rights.  [He was bored he had to be there when he could be out poaching more deer, which after all, everyone has the right to do according to him.]  What do hunters and lawful hunting have to do with poaching?  His defense sounded like a  counterfeiter saying he has just as much right to make money as anyone else.

But yeah, I agree the judge was biased, hence the self-recusal.  One thing fer darn sure, they shoulda had a lawyer.  Might have prevented the contempt of court.  I think she wanted to hear just such a reply from the guy.  She's misguided in her prejudice against hunting.  It's not right to lump those poachers in with the majority of hunters, who are law abiding.  That's why I feel a pro-hunting judge may have grilled those guys in the same manner.  Same level of prejudice but from the other end of the spectrum.  Trophy deer poachers are criminals.  Some of them are only after the mount and leave the carcass behind.  They are scumbags that do this.

Standing up to the judge when an accomplice to crime implies they're just gonna go out and do it again.  At least it seemed one of the brothers had some sense, and that ain't the one who walked out.

Sorry, distastful as it may seem, gotta say she handled it professionally by bowing out.  I would have liked to see poachers involved in trophy snatching made an example of, no matter the political bent of the judge.


I've done a good bit of deer hunting.  This is just my uneducated opinion concerning matters of law, which I know nothing about.  It does reflect how hunters feel about poaching though.  I guess my question is, what did the judge do wrong "legally?"  Was it abuse of power?  Surely some judges state a bias and then don't recuse themselves and go on to preside over a trial.


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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2006, 05:44:29 AM »
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she needs to be stripped of her position as a judge.

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she needs to be stripped and put in the doggie position.

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2006, 08:21:30 AM »
Leslie, go back a reread the story, you have all the facts wrong.

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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2006, 08:28:25 AM »
leslie... you have it wrong... no one like poachers.. the judge was not berating poachers she was berating people who would kill a cute little deer.

She was talking about how could anyone see a deer in the wild alive, with it's little beating heart, and snuff it out... she was talking about people who hunt deer... not poachers...

This newspeak is too much for me... it is like the people saying that kerrie was making a joke about Bush when he said that if you were not smart and didn't do your homework and finnish school... you would be sent to Iraq,

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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2006, 08:46:07 AM »
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You guys dont spend much time in court do you?

A large % of judges are on power trips and belittle defendants, lawyers and folks in the gallery all the time, most of them are smart enough to not do it when cameras are present, this broad is a doofis.

shamus


Agreed.  Judges are meglamaniacs.  I know of one judge that got caught using a pnus enlarger pump underneath the bench during trial - the female prosecutor could hear "whooshing" noises.  He's out.   and another female judge was found naked from the waist down and drunk unconscious in a hotel hallway during a judge's convention.  she was censured (although I kind of liked her for that).  

So when I see ANY judge up for election or re election in the voting booth, I don't even have to think about it, or even have to know their names.  I vote them all out.  I figure that it might do just a little bit to remind them who they serve.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2006, 08:53:33 AM »
I've reread the story several times John.  What facts am I missing?  



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