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Offline DREDger

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« on: January 02, 2007, 08:19:19 AM »
This subject was probably well discussed already during the last changeover, but the Hurry-C used to have an eny of 25 (or was it 35) and now it is 10.

Seems to me bit too low, as it doesn't seem to be a plane on par with a niki, typh, etc. (perhaps I am wrong, or maybe it was remodelled as well)...and that is quite a jump in rating as well.

The plane turns very well, however it is slow as a slug and doesn't have much cannon (by way of ammo amount, not #'s of)

Anyway, just my thought, maybe some expert opinions see it different.

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 08:36:04 AM »
Combine the turning ability of the Hurri-C with its 360 rnds of 20 mm Hispano ammo and you have one deadly aircraft, when flown by a seasoned vet.

I'm astonished that it's perk free in the EW arena.

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
I'm astonished that it's perk free in the EW arena

and of course the opinion which takes it completely the other direction...perk it too?  

I am not disputing it's a good airplane, and I used to love to fly it under capped conditions.  U'll never chase anyone down in it though, nor will you catch up with anyone after loosing u'r E.  Niki flies faster, has more 20mm, turns as well if not better, climbs better...same eny?

Perk it?  No, eny of 15-20, yes.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 09:05:17 AM »
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Combine the turning ability of the Hurri-C with its 360 rnds of 20 mm Hispano ammo and you have one deadly aircraft, when flown by a seasoned vet.

I'm astonished that it's perk free in the EW arena.
that's why every lazy skill-less backwards baby boy flies it.  the HurriIIc was a ground attack platform by late 1941 and by all accounts extremely easy to kill.  hardly a reflection of what is represented in AH where the HurriIIc is competetive even with 1945 aircraft models.

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 09:12:34 AM »
Hurricane acts completely opposite to what finnish pilots reported during WW2. They called hurricane a clumsy plane prone to fire that was best defeated by going into turnfight and putting a couple of mg rounds in mid fuselage. This almost instantly lit the plane up, effectively burning the pilot who sat on the fuel tank.

AH hurricane turns on a dime and nobody would want to turnfight it. It's not specially prone to fire either.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 09:15:21 AM »
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that's why every lazy skill-less backwards baby boy flies it.  the HurriIIc was a ground attack platform by late 1941 and by all accounts extremely easy to kill.  hardly a reflection of what is represented in AH where the HurriIIc is competetive even with 1945 aircraft models.


Well, if all you do is shoot people in the face--anybody can point the nose and pull the trigger.  Its just like a Niki, only slower.  And since it only flies 80 mph, you'll never get too far away from the rearm pad, that is, if you survive your jousting...

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 09:22:50 AM »
true mersu I find it's impervious to almost all damage.  I'm not opposed to it remaining that way as it gives the noobs something to survive in.  I get a chuckle out of the "veteran" players who won't wean themselves from RR play though.

if AH modelling were truly reflective of aircraft performance then the british would have continued developement of the hurricane and cancelled the spitfire program.  the same could be said of the 110, another model with blatant less than accurate representation in the game.  the 110 however does have a weak tail and is prone to stalling.  the hurri takes tons of hits before any damage registers.

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 09:30:23 AM »
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that's why every lazy skill-less backwards baby boy flies it.  


Storch, my guess is that Santa forgot to bring you a gift certificate to  Dale Carnegie Seminars this year :D

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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 09:57:24 AM »
same could be said of the 110, another model with blatant less than accurate representation in the game.

This seems true as well, although the 110 could be it's own thread.  From what I understand, the 110 was vastly outclassed in the battle of britain and were shot down in droves.  They were eventually relagated to night fighter intercept.

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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 11:07:04 AM »
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Storch, my guess is that Santa forgot to bring you a gift certificate to  Dale Carnegie Seminars this year :D
you may find this hard to believe but I taught courses of that type to hundreds of people.  I no longer care to win friends though I have found alternative methods of influencing people.  :D

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2007, 11:15:28 AM »
In the LW I think the ENY is a little low, 20 ish or more would be more realistic.  The Hurr is an easy plane to defeat given some simple tactics, just don't slow down.  

That being said I fly it frequently and find I am more successful in it than a Spitxteen.   I've been in out numbered situations an have come out on top.  

It's a plane that forces you to fight, you certainly won't outrun anything with the IIc.  You have to shoot the enemy down to exit a fight.

You get few assists flying this plane.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 11:36:07 AM »
For some mysterious reasons Hurr2 ENJ higher in MW than LW :rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 12:23:12 PM »
The one thing you can say about it is it teaches air-gunnery. You wont get far with spray-and-pray - those 20mm disappear pretty quick.

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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 12:30:09 PM »
The one thing you can say about it is it teaches air-gunnery. You wont get far with spray-and-pray - those 20mm disappear pretty quick

Not sure I agree with that, besides being off subject.  20mm hit from farther than .50 or .303.  20mm are the spray and pray round of choice.

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 01:42:39 PM »
did anyone in here give a expert oppion about the eny set for hurri :D
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