January 2007 is LA7 competition month

[crockett]

Originally posted by Kuhn
Its called boom n zoom.    

lol yea but I think Ho n Go sounds better..

[Kuhn]

I dont think you understand the diference between a HO and a BnZ.

[0verlag]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
so far overlag is still in 1st place with 10 victories landed and film evidence.

if no one beats that you will be chosing the uber 'easy mode' ride for febuary

only did it cos i was bored lol....never fly the dam thing really... although i must admit being able to chase down runners is great. Chasing those 2 spit16s down was funny



probably choose 109a5 or a8 next month...

[Viking]

Originally posted by TexInVa
All of the numbers you "quote" are at sealevel.

Which is where it counts in this game. That's why the La-7 is so good, even if it sucks above 8k.

Originally posted by TexInVa
Actually, Viking, Oleg got it right.

Originally posted by Oleg
F4Us cannt run from anything faster than spit5

Are you sure about that?

[Viking]

Btw. landed 6 then 11 in LW orange this evening. No film though.

[B@tfinkV]

Originally posted by crockett


So I don't think it's the plane it's self that people don't like but rather the typical pilot of it.

never a better word spoken on the la7, i agree 100%.

[TexInVa]

Originally posted by Viking
Which is where it counts in this game. That's why the La-7 is so good, even if it sucks above 8k.

Even though I can fight low, I like a little alt, even in my uber-dweeb spit9. And the pony won't stay low. Whomever flies a pony low just made a big mistake.

Originally posted by Viking
Are you sure about that?

On my original quote, yes. On what you changed me to quoting, no.

Did you take me for "stupid" and think I wasn't going to notice the change?

[Viking]

Originally posted by TexInVa
On my original quote, yes. On what you changed me to quoting, no.

Did you take me for "stupid" and think I wasn't going to notice the change?

No I didn't take you for stupid and I meant no disrespect. That quote is the one that I replied to and thus the cause for your reply to my post.

If speed at altitude had any bearing on the performance of a plane in this game the Ta-152 would have been king and the Tempest would be mediocre at best. We both know this is not the case. Since this game does not focus on high-alt escorting and interception of bombers the high-alt performers (like your Spit9) serve little purpose. The "war" being played in this game is a low-medium alt war of battlefield support, much more like what was fought on the eastern front during WWII. Naturally planes optimized for low-alt performance are dominant in such a game.

You can argue the speed of the F4U and P-51 at 20k+ to your heart's content, but it will not change the fact that it is completely irrelevant to this game. And I still mean no disrespect.

[B@tfinkV]

hey Tex

S! sir


i would like the oppertunity to disproove to you that the pony is dead down low against a good proportion of the planeset, if you would be intested in such a virtual test.




PS: spit9 is a very respectable plane to fly, and as a Brit i salute your fine taste

[TexInVa]

OK, Viking...... I think you and I are carrying on two different conversations. So, to end the confusion, let me summarize what I'm reading and you correct me, OK?

1. Oleg claims F4U's are barely faster than Spit-V. Negative, all F4U's much faster than almost every spit, with the exception of very few at select altitudes.

2. Oleg also claims that the F4U is outclassed by the pony, except at very high altitudes. This is true, with the exception of the first 3K.

3. You claim that the F4U-4 is superior than the P-51D "on the deck". Since you haven't defined the deck altitude, I'll assume you mean sea level. Even though this is true, that the hog is faster at sea level, I want to point out that the pony rarely flies at sea level, let alone below 5K ft.

I think my biggest problem was with how you jumped Oleg. I've been running into a lot of vets that bemoan how the game is played and how their way was (and it probably was) better and how everybody should play it their way. How the "old timers" know better. Kinda elitist, I think. I get tired of the "because I've flown since AW and I said so" attitude, you know?

I shouldn't have jumped at you, and for this I apologize.

[TexInVa]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
hey Tex

S! sir


i would like the oppertunity to disproove to you that the pony is dead down low against a good proportion of the planeset, if you would be intested in such a virtual test.




PS: spit9 is a very respectable plane to fly, and as a Brit i salute your fine taste

Your reputation proceeds you, but my curiosity is killing me. I will be happy to meet you in DA. After I'm done posting this, I'm heading to the TA if you want to PM me.

[Viking]

Originally posted by TexInVa
OK, Viking...... I think you and I are carrying on two different conversations. So, to end the confusion, let me summarize what I'm reading and you correct me, OK?

1. Oleg claims F4U's are barely faster than Spit-V. Negative, all F4U's much faster than almost every spit, with the exception of very few at select altitudes.

Agreed.

Originally posted by TexInVa
2. Oleg also claims that the F4U is outclassed by the pony, except at very high altitudes. This is true, with the exception of the first 3K.

And that exception makes Oleg's statement false. He did not make such an exception.

Originally posted by TexInVa
3. You claim that the F4U-4 is superior than the P-51D "on the deck". Since you haven't defined the deck altitude, I'll assume you mean sea level. Even though this is true, that the hog is faster at sea level, I want to point out that the pony rarely flies at sea level, let alone below 5K ft.

In this game you will find many Ponies on the deck (and yes I do mean sea level). When the Ponies find themselves in trouble they invariably dives for the deck and runs (not unlike many other planes in this game). When on the deck the Pony is at a disadvantage compared to many planes, including the F4U-1a and -4.

Originally posted by TexInVa
I think my biggest problem was with how you jumped Oleg. I've been running into a lot of vets that bemoan how the game is played and how their way was (and it probably was) better and how everybody should play it their way. How the "old timers" know better. Kinda elitist, I think. I get tired of the "because I've flown since AW and I said so" attitude, you know?

Yes perhaps I was a bit harsh with Oleg. I think his "rolleyes" ticked me off a bit.

Originally posted by TexInVa
I shouldn't have jumped at you, and for this I apologize.

Apology accepted, though an apology hardly seems necessary.

[B@tfinkV]

tex i might be able to get on for a little bit but its half one in the morning and i gotta work at eight so i cant promise to be around im sorry, i will however auger at any time to go and mess around in DA or TA so please feel free to shout me in game anytime.

im not saying i am good in the pony, TW9 totaly chewed me up in ponyBs last time we fought, for instance, but i will however definitely make a strong case that both models of P51 in this game are very seldom used to thier potential and are very capable turn fighters with the correct throttle and speed management.

[B@tfinkV]

hey tex i dug something out for you, its all about 2 things.

1 timing

2 making the enemy think they are about to get an easy kill before making your first move.



check out the relative speeds of the two aircraft from the start to the end of the following linked clip. for the P51 that is just a piss perfect manouver which is only enabled by completing both numbers 1 and 2 in the above mentioned list.


>FILM<


sure its maybe one lucky kill, but i doubt very much the that an La7 stands more chance of pulling that move on a Chog in than a P51, or any other plane for that matter. Four hispano mounted on a rock solid gun platform starting on your tail with twice your speed and twice your alt, it dont matter if your in an RV-8 or a 262 you are going to have to have some kind of plan and you gunna need it fast. The P51 [modeled in AH2] will perform as good as the very vast majority of the plane set if not excede them, it is essentially an la7 with much better guns, huge ammounts of fuel that the engine makes feel like nothing, parasail flaps that any aircraft would be envious of, incredible visibilty, and only the slight disadvantage of being quite a hefty target in a flat turn. there is of course that whole pot belly radiator thing but like an oriental beauty with the pot belly thing goin on, you 'd happily spin the motor as the rest is in mint condition

yeah sorry, did i say i like the P51?

i checked online for a bit but i gotta crash now, ill go mess around one on one anytime with anyone unless somehow the arena is being exciting.



i shall leave us with a quote from the late winston churchill


"never before in the history of online gaming have so many planes been flown so disrespectfully by so many against so few."





edit: and the spit9 kick the ponys bellybutton so gnore my rantings

the reason ya thought theysucked was because all you see is them either running or beaing chewed up when they get caught.

[Viking]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
yeah sorry, did i say i like the P51?

*lol* No, whatever could have given me that idea?

I'm glad you like the P-51, and I hope it serves you well. In the right hands it is deadly. In any case I can hardly fault you for flying the Pony seeing how I'm a Lala dweeb.

Good hunting