"At least I don't have a kid in Iraq"

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by cav58d
Ya know what Sommers?  "At least I don't have a kid who lives in San Francisco, or any other gay arse place in California".

"

And those of us close to SF agree that it is good types like you don't live nearby.

[SirLoin]

I hope your nephew makes it back ok Rip.

[Slash27]

" I didnt lose a child in Iraq" is what she just said on TV I was reading this. My impression is she is trying to be positive about losing her home. Rich or not having your house burn to the ground sucks.

[Shifty]

I have a child in Iraq on his second tour. It sucks because you worry everyday and every night. I know he would rather be somewhere else , he did 14 months there his last tour.  Soon his older brother will be there as well for his second tour in Iraq.

Do I like this?? Hell no I wish they were both safe at home. However not once have I've heard ethier of them whine or complain. It seems the people who don't have to go, or have no family over there, scream  and whine the most. I'm sorry Suzzane lost her house. Does Ms Sommers think quoates like that help the troops? I can't  how see spreading discent, fear, contempt, and taking every opportunity to be negative about the mission these men and women are tasked with is supporting them. I probably never will.

Am I scared for my sons? Yes extremely. I'm also very proud of them. They do their duty, they don't complain. Their not poor, their not uneducated , their not victims. They are Soldiers. To hell with anybody who says they are anything but that.

SPC Thomas Vandeventer 1st Cavalry Division
SPC Travis Vandeventer previously 4th Infantry Division, now US Army Reserve Psy Ops.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by SirLoin
I hope your nephew makes it back ok Rip.

The odds of dying in a car accident is still a higher odds  for you and I (and him) than a soldier serving in Iraq,  Sirloin. (Regardless of the grim picture the press is painting)  Thanks for your hopes either way though!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Shifty
I have a child in Iraq on his second tour. It sucks because you worry everyday and every night. I know he would rather be somewhere else , he did 14 months there his last tour.  Soon his older brother will be there as well for his second tour in Iraq.

Do I like this?? Hell no I wish they were both safe at home. However not once have I've heard ethier of them whine or complain. It seems the people who don't have to go, or have no family over there, scream  and whine the most. I'm sorry Suzzane lost her house. Does Ms Sommers think quoates like that help the troops? I can't  how see spreading discent, fear, contempt, and taking every opportunity to be negative about the mission these men and women are tasked with is supporting them. I probably never will.

Am I scared for my sons? Yes extremely. I'm also very proud of them. They do their duty, they don't complain. Their not poor, their not uneducated , their not victims. They are Soldiers. To hell with anybody who says they are anything but that.

SPC Thomas Vandeventer 1st Cavalry Division
SPC Travis Vandeventer previously 4th Infantry Division, now US Army Reserve Psy Ops.

Do they know how to spell "They're"?

Just kidding. to your son's Shifty! Thank them for the duty from our family please.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Do they know how to spell "They're"?

Just kidding. to your son's Shifty! Thank them for the duty from our family please.

I never said I was wasn't uneducated.
Will do. Thank You.

[Neubob]

Originally posted by Shifty
I have a child in Iraq on his second tour. It sucks because you worry everyday and every night. I know he would rather be somewhere else , he did 14 months there his last tour.  Soon his older brother will be there as well for his second tour in Iraq.

Do I like this?? Hell no I wish they were both safe at home. However not once have I've heard ethier of them whine or complain. It seems the people who don't have to go, or have no family over there, scream  and whine the most. I'm sorry Suzzane lost her house. Does Ms Sommers think quoates like that help the troops? I can't  how see spreading discent, fear, contempt, and taking every opportunity to be negative about the mission these men and women are tasked with is supporting them. I probably never will.

Am I scared for my sons? Yes extremely. I'm also very proud of them. They do their duty, they don't complain. Their not poor, their not uneducated , their not victims. They are Soldiers. To hell with anybody who says they are anything but that.

SPC Thomas Vandeventer 1st Cavalry Division
SPC Travis Vandeventer previously 4th Infantry Division, now US Army Reserve Psy Ops.

With all due respect to you and your sons, and everyone else in harms way, Shifty, I have to ask you why you interpreted her quote as a shot at the war effort?

Yes, she is likely one of the typical Hollywood types that is likely to mouth off without much stake in the situation, but in this case, all I heard her say was that there were more pressing and potentially serious issues to be dealt with than the one she now faces. Yes, she is quite possibly resentful of the war effort, but she did not state this, even in tone, in what she said...

Taken objectively, if that is possible, she made a comparison between a situation that can be rectified (her home burning), and a potentially more dire one (having a child on the battlefield). And this point is undisputable. You, as a father of two soldiers, have a whole lot more at stake than she did, facing a fire that only took her home.

All presuppositions aside, what did she say that was politically motivated to detract from the war effort or anybody involved in it?

[Masherbrum]

I believe you misinterpreted the statement Cav.

[Maverick]

Shifty, Good post and to you and your sons.

I think sommers should not have referenced the troops in iraq. It's hard to determine if she was just speaking off of the cuff saying what just came to mind or trying to make a pollitical statement. No matter as it was irrelevent to the subject at hand.

[rpm]

If the same thing happened in 1944 and she said "Thank God I don't have a son in the Pacific" it would have been immediately interpreted as nothing more than her saying there are more important things in life than material possessions.

But, no. In the fear mongering, neocon, Rove-spun world we live in today she has just spit in the face of a soldier. It's pathetic that you chickenhawks will grab at any straw to twist a message of humility into a political hate message. Suddenly she's Jane Fonda shooting down Blackhawks and making IEDs. You'll do anything to turn this into propaganda. One problem, you didn't check your facts to back up your arguement that she does not support the troops.

You might want to count how many USO tours Suzanne has made and how much actual hands on support of troops in the field she had given before you go putting words in her mouth. I'm sure you would be embarrassed if you compared it to your own.

Anyone here have an award from the troops for their service? Suzanne did, but it was burned in the fire.
Suzanne, it was only a house. It's not like you have a child in Iraq.

[Maverick]

Hey RPM,

How many lines can you post here like that before the foam from your mouth obscures the screen and you have to wipe it?

[Yeager]

I'd hit it

[cav58d]

My house burned down...I lost my job.  My car was broken into, and my girlfriend has been cheating on me with my father.  I'm being investigated for credit card fraud, and i've got a terrible rash on my genitals....But hey.  At least I don't have a kid in Iraq.

[rpm]

Originally posted by cav58d
My house burned down...I lost my job.  My car was broken into, and my girlfriend has been cheating on me with my father.  I'm being investigated for credit card fraud, and i've got a terrible rash on my genitals....But hey.  At least I don't have a kid in Iraq.

Or anything between your ears.