Author Topic: Yak-3 is a good choice. (Read 3095 times)

Vadjan-Sama · « **Reply #45 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:29:39 PM »

lmao...

If is that the thing.... is not a insult do a game to play with all these who server and died in all the WWII?

lol, you are really wrong man, go out and take some air.

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Originally posted by 1K3
Ahem, there is NO "Shinigami" anime i've heard.

No, but many use that within history

Shifty · « **Reply #46 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:41:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Vadjan-Sama
lmao...

If is that the thing.... is not a insult do a game to play with all these who server and died in all the WWII?

Okay what the **** did you just say there?

tzr · « **Reply #47 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:43:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Vadjan-Sama

If is that the thing.... is not a insult do a game to play with all these who server and died in all the WWII?

What??????

Vadjan-Sama · « **Reply #48 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:53:03 PM »

lol...

It was an example, a bad one by the way, let's cut this and keep on the real topic.. ok?

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:09:06 PM »

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Originally posted by 715
My reference states the Yak-3 first saw combat at Kursk in June of 1943. Large scale deployment occured in the summer of 1944. Is that considered late war?

By the way- that scoop on the top of the fuselage in front of the cockpit on the pics above were added to the 1990's version of the Yak-3 (not present on WWII Yak-3s). What's it for?

I believe the repro Yaks had to use an american Allison V-1710 engine, due to unavailibility of M-105's. Incidentally, in IL-2 Forgotten Battles, One of the P-40E's in that game is re-engined with a russian motor. I guess it was a popular field mod, when Allison's were in short supply. Seems that it bolted in with little modification.

Tilt · « **Reply #50 on:** April 04, 2007, 05:17:23 AM »

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Originally posted by moot
Tilt, is the 9UT as simple as the 9M to model from the 9U we already have?

The 9UT and the 9T were diferent ac.

We have the 9T and the 9M was simply the long nosed Yak9T with its big cannon replaced with a 20mm.

From your question you may have already known that. I just wanted to be clear.

the Yak9UT was indeed the Yak 9U as we know it with an armament initially comprising 1 x Ns37mm and 2 x B20.

Although elevator forces were said to be high (Cof G change?) the type was released for production in March 45 and 282 were made although its possible that they (some or all)were fitted with the NS23 instead of the 37. (23mm was an armourpeircing round)

However the big gun of the Yaks was the Yak 9K which was also a Yak9T but this time with a NS45 gun (29 rounds). A batch of 53 were produced in 44 and saw action by August 44.

moot · « **Reply #51 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:11:02 AM »

Yes, I didn't phrase that clearly. I meant to ask if modeling a 9UT from our 9U would be as simple as modeling an M from our T.
I asked because I suspected the 9U would have its cockpit moved back to make a 9UT, which would complicate modeling it.

Considering the B25 is more work than a Yak3, do you think the additional work of making a UT and K would be feasible to include with the Yak3, if the latter is chosen in the vote?
It might seem strange for "new" planes to be introduced under a dated 3D model like the Yak9s', but it wouldn't nearly outweigh how great it would be to have those two extra planes with the Yak3

I read about the 9UT in this thread:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26968
Maybe it has some info you haven't seen yet.

Tilt · « **Reply #52 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:37:05 AM »

Both our present yaks are "long nosed yaks" with the cockpit moved back over that found on the Yak1's yak7's, Yak3's and yak9D's.

The Yak9T ,9K, 9M, 9U and late 9UT used the same fuselage shape although the 9U and 9UT had more alloy panels.

AH could offer any of the above 5 with little or no work re the 3d shape. ( the UT had a couple of small cannon bulges and the 9K had a huge muzzle brake)

I fear the UT would require a small perk as it was as rare as the 152.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #53 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:41:25 AM »

Rarity is apparently not a perking reason (also, the 152 is no longer a perk). The idea of a 3 cannon yak (or a wide array of armament for them) is interesting.

Tilt · « **Reply #54 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:07:14 AM »

When time comes for HTC to consider the yak Variants It would seem fairly easy to add armament or increase the number of variants to include the

9M,9T,9K,9U,9UT

However we would end up with only Long nosed Yaks that do not represent the range of variants.

The Yak1 was in production until early 44 when its plants were switched to the Yak3.

In 40 the Yak1 also begat a trainer which became the heavier Yak7 in 41which inturn went thru many incarnations before becoming the Yak 7D which begat the Yak9 in late 42 and the 9D, DD in mid 43 along with the long nosed Yak9T.

So you see long nose Yaks are 44/45 (excepting the 1943 Yak9t) and still omit the most famous Yak (Yak3) as well as the most numerous (the Yak1[1-b])

Karnak · « **Reply #55 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:05:53 AM »

Goodbye Yak-3.

Tilt · « **Reply #56 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:25:18 AM »

It will be back!

Sindon · « **Reply #57 on:** April 04, 2007, 12:10:09 PM »

Bah, nothing worth voting for now

Bruv119 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 04, 2007, 01:18:12 PM »

yea i was a bit sad too.

Then i thought hey wait 14 x 50cal forward firing guns and 6000lbs of ord!

tedrbr · « **Reply #59 on:** April 04, 2007, 01:23:40 PM »