Setup for the week starting May 4th: Aleutian

[Panzzer]

Axis vs Allies: ALEUTIAN CAMPAIGN

June 2-3, 1942: Nearly six months to the day after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck again on American soil. The bombing of Dutch Harbor signalled the beginning of the Aleutian Campaign and led, in part, to the evacuation and internment of American civilians for the duration of the war.

On 6-7 June, 1942, the Japanese followed the Dutch Harbor raid with an invasion of American soil. After months of reconnaissance, they landed on Kiska and Attu Islands in the Western Aleutians, over 1,000 miles from Dutch Harbor.

So it's late 1942 in the Aleutians.

Allies (Bishops): A20G, P40B and P40E, P38G, F4F4, SBD and TBM.

Axis (Knights): A6M2, B5N2, D3A1 and Ki61.

With C47 and M-series for both.

SETTINGS:
AvA standards will be used for most.
Historical radar
Fuel burn is 1.0
Visibility is 10.0 miles
Object down time is 60 minutes for all important
field objects (except AAA - 15 minutes)
Base capture: 20 troops
All ack is 0.25.
Killshooter on.

[storch]

welcome to another week of ghost town

[Panzzer]

I would have thought the planeset offers good matchups (P38G vs Ki61 for example) but I guess not.

And we've had the last two weeks in Europe with '43-'44 planes, time to change the planes and the location.

[Mister Fork]

Originally posted by storch
welcome to another week of ghost town

Storch - comments like that are not appreciated - and we know you've got a lot of good ideas to bring to the AvA, as well as your squad.  So, how would you have run the Aleutian setup? What could we do differently?

[Larry]

I personally don't like setups that involve the japanese becuase IMO theres not enough aircraft to make a good setup. Its always eather a early war or vary late war. Wasnt the Ki61 a 43 or 44 plane? What about the P38G is'nt it a late '42 plane? Again the A20 is a May '42 you think they would have them in action one month later? Plus if it is in the setup should be limited, and theres no way any japnese plane could catch it.

[TheBug]

Interestingly enough, I am just finishing a book I got from my local library called "Last Flight of Bomber 31".  It is about the recovery of a PV-1 Ventura crew's remains that went down in Kamchatka during the bomber raids on the Kuriles. The book gives a brief history on the fighting in the Aleutians and cover the hardships of flying in such a tough climate.

I agree that this setup will most likely not have a big draw.  As to why I have no idea??  It looks very interesting to me and should prove to be fun, no matter if it is not 100% historical.  I think it has a different spin to it and Panzerr for setting it up.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Larry
I personally don't like setups that involve the japanese becuase IMO theres not enough aircraft to make a good setup. Its always eather a early war or vary late war. Wasnt the Ki61 a 43 or 44 plane? What about the P38G is'nt it a late '42 plane? Again the A20 is a May '42 you think they would have them in action one month later? Plus if it is in the setup should be limited, and theres no way any japnese plane could catch it.

For some reason there has always been a large crowd that is simply not interested in the Japanese planes.  I actually understand this, because I have a similar feeling about the 1945 ETO planes (Temps, Doras, and, of course, the spits).  Not a problem, not every AvA setup is going to be appealing.

For those who haven't made up their minds, however, it pays to approach the PTO setups with an open mind.  All of the Japanese fighters - ALL of them - are superior turn fighters.  There is no plane in the AH plane set that can match the A6M2 in a turn fight.  Those who are new to AH often find them to be some of the best planes to learn on.  Vets can simply have fun flying them.  The Tony takes some time to learn to fly well (Storch, as he is not letting on, is very good in a Tony).  The Tony v. 38G or Wildcat is a challenge for any vet.  From the other perspective, the P-40E can be a match for the Tony, but it takes a lot of skill and care on the Allied pilot's part.

As TK notes, the Japanese plane set is not as varied as the British, American or German sets.  That's the main reason we don't run as many PTO setups as ETO.  When we do, though, give them a try.  Most of us find that they're a lot of fun.  (NB:  TK is correct that the Zeke won't catch the A-20, but the Tony will.)

Added bonus here:  the Aleutian map is really a work of art.  You feel cold, lonely and vaguely afraid the moment you take off.  There are enough carrier forces to enable quick fights almost any time.  Stop in and see for yourself.

- oldman

[Oldman731]

And final thought:  For me, the early war PTO planes have always been more immersive.  I can see myself at Guadalcanal in a Wildcat, or, as here, over Dutch Harbor in a Zeke.  

- oldman

[Panzzer]

Setup is now done, enjoy. And let me know if something is wrong.

NOTE: The terrain download in game didn't seem to work for me, I had to download the terrain from here: http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/AHALEUTIAN.EXE before I was able to get in to the arena.

[Larry]

I'll be flying it just ganna hearing me whineing about being able to roast marshmallows on my plane so easy.

[Eagler]

is there anyway to set the fleet ack/flak to a low damage setting while increasing the hardness for the fleet to where it takes triple to sink anything?
I think the ack/flak from the fleets make these PTO scenerios less enjoyable as many use them as floating ack bases to hide in.
As i will be out of town sun - weds, I'll miss most of it so not a deal breaker for me, just wondering.

[Skyfoxx]

Not trying to be negative here, but I have one small gripe, not so much about the setup but about how some setups are advertised.
Since it has been stated time and time again that the AvA arena is not nor will ever be a historical arena, but it is an axis vs allied arena, can we please refrain from calling this an Aleutians Campaign as if the setup is historical. There is nothng historical about a Ki61 in 1942 Aleutians.
I understand why you have the KI61 there, but please don't describe or insinuate that setups are historical when they are not, that goes for any setup.

Other than that it looks good to me. Oldman is right about the terrain. It is one of the nicest terrains made to date imo.

[Larry]

It should go back to being called the CT I dont like the AvA name. CT has always been as historical as it can be, but I think the fun of playing overseads historical accuracy. This setup is historical to some degree but no setup will ever be 100% accurate, but they come as close as they can.

[allmetal]

*sigh*Another PTO setup.My problem here is this....You have the axis rolling out 2 fighters against 4 allied for starters.Add to the fact that all the 2 can do is turn fight really well and what do you get?880 sqn coming in at 20k and BnZ`ing you to death.HTC needs to fill this gaping hole in the jap plane set big time.Sorry for the bad advertising but i will be passing this week.I know getting shot down is part of the game but it would be nice to at least get a fighting chance.

[TheBug]

Don't be an arse, everybody was using the 20k airstart and at one point last night all of us were at alt disadvantage.  880 was down in the dirt fighting all night long last night.

If you makes you happy we will gladly fly IJ next week and you can have the Allied rides.

It's not the maps, the planesets, the substitutions, or the AvA staff that keeps the AvA from becoming what it truly should be.  It's mouthy little punks like you.  So pitch in or leave.

Because of JG54 AND 880 the AvA has had a pulse the last couple of weeks. You little pos.