Author Topic: Russian Navy - Secrets of the Kursk (Read 3007 times)

Viking · « **Reply #45 on:** July 05, 2007, 06:04:36 PM »

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Originally posted by MORAY37
I am well aware the photo could be doctored...I work in the business of definable truths.. but if it is not... that is a serious question, at least in my eyes.

Nilsen · « **Reply #46 on:** July 05, 2007, 06:05:05 PM »

Well Moray37 i can tell ya for sure that Haakonsvern is the homebase for our subs so that is abit misleading. There is however easy to see the difference between a LA class and norwegian ULA class subs. I actually went inside and took the tour of a LA class sub at Haakonsvern in the winter of 94 and it acutally was moored in the same spot as that sub in the photo.

As I understood it at the time they moored there on a fairly regular basis.

AKIron · « **Reply #47 on:** July 05, 2007, 09:59:11 PM »

A collision is plausible. The launching of a torpedo is wild speculation.

McFarland · « **Reply #48 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:07:50 PM »

Implosion could have caused an inward hole from the water pressure, and the air after it cooled from the initial heat of the blast would have had lower pressure, and no oxygen.

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #49 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:34:04 AM »

If Memphis was there it could have been damaged from the same explosion that sank Kursk if it was close enough.

Theoretically, although it's a very long shot.

McFarland · « **Reply #50 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:27:55 AM »

Looking at those photos, it looks more like that hole was cut into the the sub. The edges are too neat to be a puncture, or an explosion. If you will notice, there is no metal pointing in from the edges, they are clean cut.

Tango · « **Reply #51 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:10:55 AM »

Pics of ships that were torpedoed in WW2 show rips in the hulls, not perfect holes.

Nilsen · « **Reply #52 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:13:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Tango
Pics of ships that were torpedoed in WW2 show rips in the hulls, not perfect holes.

True, and i dont belive it was a torpedo. Torpedoes in ww2 had different warheads and fuzes than now, and _perhaps_ a mk48 adcap penetrates the sub before detonating.

Tango · « **Reply #53 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:16:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
True, and i dont belive it was a torpedo. Torpedoes in ww2 had different warheads and fuzes than now, and _perhaps_ a mk48 adcap penetrates the sub before detonating.

Don't they also have more powerful warheads? If so I doubt there would have been a perfect hole.

Nilsen · « **Reply #54 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:19:57 AM »

Depends on how far the torpedo penetrates the sub before xploding.

McFarland · « **Reply #55 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:23:41 AM »

That hole wasn't made by any torpedo or collsion unless it was a collision with a saw blade. That hole is almost perfectly round, no metal pointing inward or outward, no jagged adges, it's just a perfect clean cut. Last I checked, there wasn't a torpedo equipped with a boring bit to cut into a ship. And if it had been melted, it would still be rough edged, and there would have been corrosion from the action of the salt water on the hot metal.

Nilsen · « **Reply #56 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:25:49 AM »

correct.. that is not a torpedo hole

john9001 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:04:13 AM »

it was not a torpedo, the hole was made by the super secret american under water lazer.

Viking · « **Reply #58 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:44:41 AM »

Perhaps it was a Norwegian drilling-rig, and we're just trying to pass the buck on the Americans?

Suave · « **Reply #59 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:56:59 AM »

So you guys believe that a blunt object traveling at 40-50 knots will penetrate a submarine hull ?

What a torpedo with a special delayed fuse and an auger bit.. a bunker buster torpedo?

Think guys, don't be such sheople.