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Offline bj229r

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« on: July 12, 2007, 06:03:53 AM »
OK, CAN't have Ten Commandments on the wall in a courtroom
CAN'T have a cross on a hill on public land (though it is a memorial to dead soldiers)
CAN'T allow Boy Scouts of America to use public land
CAN't allow kids to read Bible SILENTLY to themselves during break
CAN'T allow kids to have a 'Bible' club after hours on school property
(Could go on for some time here, but you get the idea..I'm waiting for Rosie O'Donnell to scream out "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!"....but these types usually have naught to say in this area)

But apparently the ACLU DOESN'T have any sort of problem with public schools accommodating Muslims by  having prayer breaks, and removing any vestige of pork from school grounds???


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Political Correctness: Seems the ACLU couldn't care less that a San Diego public school has set aside 15 minutes of classroom instruction time for Muslim students to pray, while non-Muslims twiddle their thumbs.

Right now it has no plans to legally challenge the budding madrassa as endorsement of a religion by government. Apparently the establishment clause only applies to the practice of Judeo-Christian rituals in public places.

The special accommodations for Carver Elementary's nearly 100 Somali Muslims don't stop with organized prayer. The school cafeteria has banned pork and other foods that conflict with the Islamic diet.

And the K-8 school has even added Arabic — the language of the Quran — to its curriculum, while segregating classes for girls, a la the Taliban.

In effect, Carver administrators have carved out a school within a school expressly for Muslims, elevating them above Christian and Jewish students. They've had 15 minutes of instruction time taken away from them, so Muslims can roll out their pray mats..


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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 06:32:34 AM »
I have no problem with the "cants", but giving other religions advantages is even worse.

Keep all the religious stuff at home and in your own hours.

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 07:13:17 AM »
The irony is that the ACLU and it's supporters will be among the first beheaded when the Muslims take control. Maybe it isn't irony but justice.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 07:20:10 AM »
I have a problem with the CAN'Ts. I will read me Bible where ever I want. Not having the Ten Commandments on a courthouse wall isn't right. This country was founded on those commandments. And then they allow the Islams to have prayer break, they ban pork, and then they seperate the girls and boys? Well, when that school is suicide bombed by those kids, I'll be over here laughing me head off at the lawmakers running out of there as fast as they can.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 07:25:26 AM »
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Well, when that school is suicide bombed by those kids, I'll be over here laughing me head off at the lawmakers running out of there as fast as they can.


Yea them suicide bombings are always some hilarious stuff.
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Offline McFarland

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 07:52:14 AM »
I was referring to the irony of the situation. The people helping them getting the bombing, in other words, biting the hand that feeds them.

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 07:56:07 AM »
mcfarland...  ACLU people don't send their kids (if they even ever have kids) to public school..

It is your kid that will be suicide bombed cause you can't afford to send your kid to a decent school..  even tho it costs 10 grand a year for us to send your kid to a worthless public school and only 5 grand a year to a great private one.

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 08:07:03 AM »
I'll have you know the public schools here are better than any private school. Private schools are for stuck up rich idiots. The public school I went to, all 3 of them, were great. I had some of the best teachers in the world. And there were rednecks there, computer geeks, and very few snobs (rich stuck up idiots), and most of all, rednecks and computer guys. We had a good football team, and a science club, and several other extra curricular activities. The chemistry class was one of the best, and the biology class, and the shop classes were great. Public schools are good, they prepare you for real life, in which you won't be surrounded by rich snobs. Private schools are for wimps who can't deal with the rest of society.

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 08:07:33 AM »
"You shall have no other gods before me."

On a courthouse wall, that sounds like a federal endorsement of one religion.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2007, 08:47:32 AM »
soooo.. your beef with private schools is that they are full of "rich snobs"?

I shudder to think what your defenition of "rich" is.

I will send my grand daughter to catholic school this year.  I am not rich and I will be paying less than is spent on a child to go to public school by the taxpayers.

Are you a democrat by any chance?   you value snakes over people.. you think man is causing global warming and now you refer to anyone who wants to give his child a good education and is willing to sacrafice a "rich snob"

seems to me that you are the snob.

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2007, 08:54:34 AM »
Actually, I'm free party. I go with who ever has the best policies. But I usually vote republican. And public schools give just as good (usually better) education than private. And it's not a sacrifice, either you can afford it or you can't. Although, if I could afford it, I would still send them to a oublic school. There you will learn how to deal with people, you will have many options, and many opinions. Unlike private schools, where most people are all of one opinion. And there usually aren't any rednecks at private schools. That's aboot the worst thing aboot them.

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 09:00:52 AM »
A guy(muslim) at my work a fw months ago tried to force the company(Ford) to give extra time off the assembly line for Muslims to pray.

A petition went around the plant where if u signed,you were declaring a change in religion to the Muslim faith.

Nearly everone that saw the petition signed it...And low and behold Ford denied the request.

Bringing in prayer time to North American PUBLIC schools would deny children 15 minutes of education everyday in the name of Islam.


..as for the Ten Commandments..They should put up a monolith at the White House for the politicians to see.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2007, 09:01:45 AM »
you don't learn how to deal with people in private schools?  are you brain dead?

Your kids won't learn how to "deal with people" if they don't spend some time in prison or bangladesh either so maybe you ought to send em there?

I take offense to your attitude.  It is indeed a sacrifice for me to send my grand daughter to catholic school and they do indeed have better scores than any public school in the state..  some private have higher tho.

The tuition will be a large part of my disposable income.   I say that you simply don't care about your kids.  I say that you are using the "throw em in... they will learn to swim or drown" because you are too ignorant or selfish to do the right thing.

If the public school is so much better than the private then why are the "rich snobs" not sending their kids to your public schools?

even you must see that you make no sense?

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2007, 06:28:54 PM »
There are no private schools within 50 miles of here, and everyone goes to the same school. And I beleive that that is how you teach them to swim, throw them in the water. Humans have the instinct to know how to swim. It's how the indians taught the young braves to swim. It's how I was taught to swim. If they have trouble, you can always help them, but they'll learn faster that way, and they'll learn better. But that's beside the point. I care aboot kids, I wouldn't want any harm to come to them. Exactly why I do like all the other generations of me family, and send them to a public school. Ignorant? Selfish? No sir, not when we do the best we can to afford to eat day to day, until the harvest comes in, it is simply we can't afford something that costs more than a good mule team. And will leave them worse off than not going to school. Those private schools don't teach important things, like how to plant by the signs, when to harvest, how to take care of horses, how to take care of livestock, proper English, the sciences, the classics, how to cut lumber, how build, how to fix car engines, how to run a home network system, how to repair a computer. I learned all that and more in me school, and it was public. So we live old fashioned, no reason to call us ignorant. Maybe if the rest of the world lived old fashioned, it would be more peacefull, cause there hasn't been any serious crime by the locals, the only crime is from the construction crew workers and others like that who just go through town and leave, they know they will be harder to find. It's very peacefull here, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2007, 06:33:35 PM »
America will not be defeated by foreign forces, it will commit suicide.