Author Topic: Open carry test (Read 2956 times)

Gunthr · « **Reply #105 on:** August 11, 2007, 08:21:53 PM »

lol, i don't know sirloin .... you seem to. You tell me

DarkCrow · « **Reply #106 on:** August 11, 2007, 08:26:24 PM »

Wow interesting thread. Good video and responses.

I'm a little on both sides aswell. First off I'll say that the police officer made a honest mistake. No big deal. He is a person just like the rest of us. I'm sure he knows the laws that he has to deal with day in and day out but he isn't a computer robot. The amount of laws and loop holes and freedoms is alot to have to access in that hardrive we call the brain while emotions interfear.

As for the cell as a weapon, common guys this is 2007, that could be a trigger for a bomb that was sitting in his car 20 feet away or strapped to himself. Not that I'm saying he had to put it down, just that it could possibly be more dangerous than what you guys have speculated.

Now as far as the rights go I am completely in agreement in protecting them. The government has been trying to take our rights to bare arms for nothing more than protecting the citizens. Yet it will leave us lawful citizens defenseless against the unlawful people that get them illegally anyway.

Another thing I want to touch on is the whole papers deal and the site that was posted by an earlier response in the thread. I'm not a real religous person but I believe in what the Bible has to say about the signs and tribulation. One of those being that who ever is left behind will have to have the mark of the Beast in order to buy grocceries or to do anything under the ruling of the anti-christ. So what does the whole papers deal sound like it's leading towards? How long before we will be barcoded for identity in this world where your name and life can be stolen? America won't be free forever, but I'm in no rush to speed up my time on death row.

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john9001 · « **Reply #107 on:** August 11, 2007, 08:27:02 PM »

holster gun not cool, only cops have holster gun.

yo jus stick da gun in yo pants fool. word.

MiloMorai · « **Reply #108 on:** August 11, 2007, 09:29:42 PM »

If the guy had a big bushy black moustache and had a 'rag' on his head we would be hearing what a good job the cop was doing.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #109 on:** August 11, 2007, 09:53:07 PM »

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Originally posted by MiloMorai
If the guy had a big bushy black moustache and had a 'rag' on his head we would be hearing what a good job the cop was doing.

Nah, we'd have to listen to bleeding heart surrender monkeys* crying about racial discrimination.

*Please, please move into our country and take us over, we will give you all of our available resources until we too, are just a third world mess.

We are almost to the point that only a revolution can save us.

Tango · « **Reply #110 on:** August 11, 2007, 09:53:33 PM »

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Originally posted by DarkCrow
As for the cell as a weapon, common guys this is 2007, that could be a trigger for a bomb that was sitting in his car 20 feet away or strapped to himself. Not that I'm saying he had to put it down, just that it could possibly be more dangerous than what you guys have speculated.

Sorry, didn't know he was in Baghdad. I guess it could have been used as a weapon.

SirLoin · « **Reply #111 on:** August 11, 2007, 10:39:31 PM »

He lost me on that too...and the Bible reference?

3 posts= nice sign+ tribulation

storch · « **Reply #112 on:** August 11, 2007, 11:27:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
one more aspect, a common sense thing... in Broward County, FL, 2 cops have been shot dead in the past week or two. I think an open carry test may well depend on where and when it happens. People forget that cops are people too, with families that they would like to return to after a days work. They are not lawyers, just people like you and me.

and as result of those two senseless shootings citizens are being mis-treated and rights are being trampled upon.

my daughter was test driving a new toyota out of maroone toyota in davie friday afternoon. she was followed out of the dealership by a BSO unit soon there were ten units. when the officers felt sufficiently safe and with plenty of numbers they stopped the vehicle, pulled my 5'6" 120lb. 24yr old daughter out of the car pushed her face into the dirt on griffin road while handcuffed, did the same to the employee riding with her. all the while 15 armed policemen going apechit with weapons drawn and fingers on the triggers were hollering nonsense at them. they claimed it was a "stolen tag" on the car. after an hour of their weak and womanly snivelling they released the kids. a report has been filed with internal affairs, monday I will be visiting my state representative and my congressman then my attorney.

I generally like police personnel but there are police officers who are down right cowards and have no business being in law enforcement. when you accept the position you do so with the implicit understanding that you may not make home for supper one night. those officers need reprimanding in the very least and I'm the wrong to have his family picked on. we went through something similar with a PSD deputy in miami-dade two years back with my older daughter and eventually I was instrumental in getting that guy's badge.

law enforcement needs to be held accountable for each and every mis-step otherwise we become a police state.

Chairboy · « **Reply #113 on:** August 11, 2007, 11:40:16 PM »

Storch: It's funny, that traffic stop sounds like it was handled just about perfect by Marine's standards.

Gunthr · « **Reply #114 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:38:10 AM »

Storch, I'm sorry to hear about what happened with your daughter. I might be able to help you. PM me.

Thrawn · « **Reply #115 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:10:06 AM »

Right now I ****ing <3 you storch.

MORAY37 · « **Reply #116 on:** August 12, 2007, 04:06:02 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
my thinking is that there are too many people who simply have a moray type fear of firearms that is not reasonable.

If as rolex says... it is "reasonable" to want to question someone who is lawfully carrying a firearm out in the open then.. something is wrong with the system and more people need to carry openly and lawfully in that state so that people become accustomed to it and the laws of that state..

the guy was doing everyone a favor. What good is the right to carry openly if the rest of you clowns think that to do so should cause you to be accosted by police even if you are simply walking on a sidewalk and in no (other) way acting in any manner that would be suspicious or indicate lawlessness?

and wrag.. xmarine does not go into danger every day.. hasn't for 20 years or so. spent less time in than out.

lazs

Laz, don't make statements when you don't know someone. I have no fear of firearms, I own three myself. I have a concealed weapons permit. I don't fear myself with a gun, but I don't have the need to display it for the world, either.... I have no need in being Mister Macho on the street. Besides that, I have a police trained (thats' what my mother does) german shepard that is alot more deadly than a gun, and I can call her back when I pull her trigger.

No, my point is that, there is something wrong with you if you feel the need to display or brandish a firearm in public. You think it makes people less likely to mess with you... I think it makes the wrong type MORE likely to mess with you. It's funny you think someone couldn't take that weapon off you in a heartbeat.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #117 on:** August 12, 2007, 05:02:06 AM »

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Originally posted by MORAY37
You think it makes people less likely to mess with you... I think it makes the wrong type MORE likely to mess with you.

Yup, or mess with the sheep around me.

Slash27 · « **Reply #118 on:** August 12, 2007, 05:13:48 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
and as result of those two senseless shootings citizens are being mis-treated and rights are being trampled upon.

my daughter was test driving a new toyota out of maroone toyota in davie friday afternoon. she was followed out of the dealership by a BSO unit soon there were ten units. when the officers felt sufficiently safe and with plenty of numbers they stopped the vehicle, pulled my 5'6" 120lb. 24yr old daughter out of the car pushed her face into the dirt on griffin road while handcuffed, did the same to the employee riding with her. all the while 15 armed policemen going apechit with weapons drawn and fingers on the triggers were hollering nonsense at them. they claimed it was a "stolen tag" on the car. after an hour of their weak and womanly snivelling they released the kids. a report has been filed with internal affairs, monday I will be visiting my state representative and my congressman then my attorney.

I generally like police personnel but there are police officers who are down right cowards and have no business being in law enforcement. when you accept the position you do so with the implicit understanding that you may not make home for supper one night. those officers need reprimanding in the very least and I'm the wrong to have his family picked on. we went through something similar with a PSD deputy in miami-dade two years back with my older daughter and eventually I was instrumental in getting that guy's badge.

law enforcement needs to be held accountable for each and every mis-step otherwise we become a police state.

Break it off in them.

Sorry your daughter went through that crap.

Tango · « **Reply #119 on:** August 12, 2007, 07:47:21 AM »

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Originally posted by MORAY37
You think it makes people less likely to mess with you... I think it makes the wrong type MORE likely to mess with you.

I seem to remember a saying that criminals are more afraid of a citizen with a gun than a cop. Being that they are more likly to shot them than the cop will when attempting to commit a crime.

Of course Marine would be the exception.