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Offline Druss

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2007, 09:12:52 PM »
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Wow... somebody hates America.

*Clears throat* I hate to tell you buddy, but you live in a socialist state. "Pure capitalism" cannot survive. There is no way around it. To believe otherwise is folly.

Socialism is why we have the Fed to regulate interest rates so we avoid inflation... socialism is why we have tarrifs to protect native industry... socialism is why we have farm subsidies to keep America's family run farms operating... socialism is why we have Unions and living wages... socialism is why you have more than a snowball's chance in hell to work for a company with your name on it rather than Rockefeller, Geddy, or Carnegie's.

Unchecked capitalism simply cannot exist... it is a fire that consumes all resources until it extinguishes itself after burning all of the oxygen out of the room.

Perhaps you are like the many other people who frequent these boards who don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism?.


LOL! You need a lot of education and more than a little enlightenment, my friend.

This country does have too much socialism simply because it is too easy to attain political power by simply buying votes using taxpayer money.

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"Unchecked capitalism simply cannot exist...it is a fire that consumes all resources until it extinguishes itself after burning all of the oxygen out of the room."
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ROFL! Please, spare me the melodramatics and sophomoric attempts at logic.
The degree of socialism required for a country is basically outlined by our founding fathers. Anything beyond this is un-needed an un-warranted.

BTW, where have you ever seen "unchecked capitalism" at work? How do you  know that "it is a fire that consumes all resources until it extinguishes itself after burning all of the oxygen out of the room."

Exactly WHERE has socialism provided a utopia? Can you answer that simple question. The idea has been around a long time. Should be easy to find.


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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2007, 09:26:58 PM »
I've never claimed socialism provided utopia... but the closest we've come to it is here in the U.S. and like I said... the U.S. is a socialist state my friend.  Get used to the idea.

Oh and if you're the one providing the "education" that you claim I need...well, I'll gladly flunk out.  Because clearly you don't have a clue. :p

Tip-  the public library is there for you to use (oh no! Another Godless socialistic ideal that has caught on???  How dare they spend tax dollars in the public interest?)  Go there... check out a book.  Reading is fundamental :rofl

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2007, 09:32:00 PM »
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I do not think that is a reflection on our health system as much as it is a reflection on the non exercising, super sized big mac munching, beer guzzling tub of lard which makes up the average over weight american typical zero self control, over indulgent lifestyle


Actually this is exactly the point. Health systems in the most successful countries focus more on prevention and staying healthy while the American system focuses more on treatment and cure.

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2007, 09:35:34 PM »
You are alright Dynamite. :aok  That was fun!

I don't think you are completely wrong, you know.

I love fussin' and being contrary. ;)

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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2007, 09:36:31 PM »
ooops, got my threads jumbled.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2007, 09:37:10 PM »
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You are alright Dynamite. :aok  That was fun!

I don't think you are completely wrong, you know.

I love fussin' and being contrary. ;)

Druss


Thanks Bubba <> you too :aok

Hey, out of curiosity, what is on your Avatar? I can't quite make it out- It looks pretty cool :aok

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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2007, 09:37:58 PM »
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Those Swedish meatballs are too good not to be subversive. I'm with you MT, it's never too late, let's invade.


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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2007, 09:38:46 PM »
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Dirty hijacker! Send this man to Gitmo!


Probly easier than I have it now.
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2007, 09:43:27 PM »
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Dirty hijacker! Send this man to Gitmo!


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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2007, 11:26:04 PM »
You really are slow tonight. I don't think even Iron feels like he "hooked" me. Seems to me we were having a little light hearted fun there. Too bad you had to make it some sort of competition. Maybe you could play against yourself and declare a yourself the winner after a while. Don't make it too easy though.

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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2007, 06:45:33 AM »
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I made no such mistake. Hopefully reading glasses are covered by your health plan.


yep. got them on :)
care to clarify your post which I took as u stating the losers paying tax dollars will pay for their care ??
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2007, 08:22:18 AM »
dynomite... does anyone use the library anymore?  And... I pay for my grand daughters private school because the socialist one is so bad.

What socialist program is good for me again and why should I want another?

It won't work in this country... medicare doesn't work...it grows in cost every year and is sub par care.  

The perscription plan costs more than hillarys whole hoax is perported to cost... you are being conned...  

The other problem is level of care... the reasons for higher and higher health care won't go away...new procedures and expensive testing.. illegals using the system and people who have kids but can't afford their own ciggs and pot...

lawyers who sue...  sure.. we could reduce costs if we simply got rid of all modern procedures... if we only used leeches for instance and shut down the MRI's and blood labs. and...  hung all the lawyers who sue doctors like.... well.... like.....  

john edwards

He is the problem... now he wants to be the solution?

How many million dollar lawsuits a year do you see being paid for malpractice in socialized medicine countries?

and.. the elephant in the room.... All the major breakthroughs in medical field come from the US and our system... once there is no incentive... who's back does the world ride on?

I guess it will work out... once there are no more advances... the plans will get cheaper.

And.. make everyone have insurance?   yeah... that will work.. just like there are no uninsured drivers in kalifornia....

Only the law abiding and working will get screwed by this plan... just like they do with every socialist pos plan the democrats come up with.

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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2007, 08:49:40 AM »
Now that she has hopped on the insurance industry band wagon with the republicans I'm sure we will get another business welfare plan like the drug plan.

The competition in car insurance has worked so well, I'm sure that if we make it a crime not to have health insurance the rates will plunge.

It would appear that she is now a conservative in the Romney mold.

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2007, 08:55:48 AM »
yep... the facts are as they are.... health care is just better than ever and more expensive than ever... no one wants to die no matter how much it costs their insurance company..... no one will want to die no matter how much it costs their neighbor...

everyone will still want to sue if the doctor doesn't do a perfect job every time and....

the government will screw it up like EVERY single thing they touch and waste our money.    

And.. the numbers won't add up... the figures hillary gives will all be about a tenth of the real numbers and... the burden for paying for the mess will not be on the people making 250k a year.. it will trickle down to the people making 25K a year...  and not on welfare and... of course... here legally...

Why do people always look at socialism as if it is getting something for nothing?  can't they see it can't work here?  

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2007, 09:11:09 AM »
I think they should cut all the waste they used to create the new Homeland security dept.  Having boat loads of Them driving around in the great lakes with machine guns is dumb.    It is a redundant dept that costs to much money.

Btw i think if they went out and cut the salaries of all goverment employees by 10% and gave them similar healthcare packages and retirement packages as the average person.  If they did this for  everyone from the president to the dog catcher that would work as well.

Just those savings would help fund a real heath care push,  Not the one Hillary is pushing.