B29 Superfortress and a thought from a squaddie

[Rino]

Originally posted by splitatom
the plane was the oka (pink flower) do not coment me on the spelling for oka i know i spelled it wrong it was powered by a roket not a buzbomb engen it was launched by bombers bad idea the planes were easy kills for american planes it is credited i thing with the sinking of a single destroyer and severly damageing another
STOP POSTING THREADS ON THE B 29 I THINK HTC KNOWS WE WANT ITD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     The Baka bomb wasn't an easy kill, it's Betty launch platform was.  The one
in the Smithsonian is actually jet powered compressor>, although most were rockets.

I also beleive it was Ohka for Cherry Blossom

[MajIssue]

Sorry Guys! I've been playing this game off and on for a few years but am new to posting on this board... I didn't know that B-29s were such an overdiscussed subject
As to the idea that non American bombers should be added first... Name ONE type that had 10% of the effectiveness of the B-17/24 in the ETO other than some of the Brit types that were horrible daylight bombers and had to  fly at night. The HE 111 would be a possibility but it was cursed with slow speed, low service celing and a small bomb load (but did LOOK cool).
Russian Bombers? maybe the IL-2... oops that was an exact (down to the battle damage patches) copy of the Superfort.
Italian bombers? kill bait all.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by MajIssue
Sorry Guys! I've been playing this game off and on for a few years but am new to posting on this board... I didn't know that B-29s were such an overdiscussed subject
As to the idea that non American bombers should be added first... Name ONE type that had 10% of the effectiveness of the B-17/24 in the ETO other than some of the Brit types that were horrible daylight bombers and had to  fly at night. The HE 111 would be a possibility but it was cursed with slow speed, low service celing and a small bomb load (but did LOOK cool).
Russian Bombers? maybe the IL-2... oops that was an exact (down to the battle damage patches) copy of the Superfort.
Italian bombers? kill bait all.

You do know there was fighting before Dec 7 1941?

Bronk

[Spikes]

Originally posted by MajIssue

Search.

And you spelled prophets wrong too.

[Denholm]

MajIssue, you're quite an issue aren't you? Perhaps you never realised that some of us are history junkies and enjoy a good historical aircraft in the list. Some of us are jealous that the Americans have the largest plane set in this game. The rest of us would prefer some variety other then having to look into the American plane set all the time.

[Mr No Name]

B-29 ought to be here - eventually - - - but i am posting another thread about unrelated bomber wishes.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by MajIssue
maybe the IL-2... oops that was an exact (down to the battle damage patches) copy of the Superfort.

Wrong![/b]

1st, we have the Il-2 in AH, it is a single engined attack aicraft.  The Tu-4 is the post-war copy of the B-29.

Look at some of these:  Ju188A-1, Do217, He177A-5, Pe-2, Tu-2, Mosquito B.Mk IV, Mosquito B.Mk XVI, P.108, H8K2 'Emily'.  All of those would be viable bombers in the LW MAs.  The B-29 and other American bombers are not the only options.  In addition, read up on WWII before making outlandish claims.

[Capz]

MajIssue, you're quite an issue aren't you? Perhaps you never realised that some of us are history junkies and enjoy a good historical aircraft in the list. Some of us are jealous that the Americans have the largest plane set in this game. The rest of us would prefer some variety other then having to look into the American plane set all the time.

There may be more American planes in the game but it's not like thats what you see most.  Seems to me you see alot more La7's, Niki and Spit16's than you ever see 51s, 47s or 38s.  That being said the B-29 is a very bad idea, I think the toolshedders are doing just fine with what they have now.  IMO the P-39 is one of the more needed and better ideas for an addition to the plane set.

[Karnak]

Capz, the US planes seem to be doing ok.  The top spot belongs to the P-51D:

P-51D has 30975 Kills of All models. All models have 27809 Kills of P-51D

La-7 has 29803 Kills of All models. All models have 24412 Kills of La-7

Spitfire Mk XVI has 25634 Kills of All models. All models have 24130 Kills of Spitfire Mk XVI

N1K2 has 23382 Kills of All models. All models have 19730 Kills of N1K2

Typhoon IB has 16221 Kills of All models. All models have 10315 Kills of Typhoon IB

F6F-5 has 14579 Kills of All models. All models have 15226 Kills of F6F-5

Hurricane Mk IIC has 14497 Kills of All models. All models have 9760 Kills of Hurricane Mk IIC

Spitfire Mk VIII has 11981 Kills of All models. All models have 12461 Kills of Spitfire Mk VIII

A6M5b has 11637 Kills of All models. All models have 12782 Kills of A6M5b

Fw 190D-9 has 11162 Kills of All models. All models have 8202 Kills of Fw 190D-9

Bf 110G-2 has 10486 Kills of All models. All models have 14090 Kills of Bf 110G-2

Fw 190A-8 has 10205 Kills of All models. All models have 8479 Kills of Fw 190A-8

P-38L has 9620 Kills of All models. All models have 12009 Kills of P-38L

F4U-1D has 8316 Kills of All models. All models have 11600 Kills of F4U-1D

Bf 109K-4 has 7679 Kills of All models. All models have 5383 Kills of Bf 109K-4

Ki-84-Ia has 7653 Kills of All models. All models have 6206 Kills of Ki-84-Ia

C.205 has 5597 Kills of All models. All models have 4973 Kills of C.205

P-47-D40 has 5532 Kills of All models. All models have 5878 Kills of P-47-D40

Yak-9U has 5718 Kills of All models. All models have 5326 Kills of Yak-9U

Mosquito Mk VI has 5448 Kills of All models. All models have 5129 Kills of Mosquito Mk VI

[Rich46yo]

Why even perk it? Just dont allow drones in it .

                       I think the bottom line is that Americans made the best all around bombers in WW-ll. Just watch, let these closet bombers start getting shot down in 29s, at 3,000' that they just lifted off from next door airfields, to jump into the furball? And when they get slaughtered in it? It will end up being a Hangar queen for many. Most of all if theres no drones with it.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
Why even perk it? Just dont allow drones in it .

                       I think the bottom line is that Americans made the best all around bombers in WW-ll. Just watch, let these closet bombers start getting shot down in 29s, at 3,000' that they just lifted off from next door airfields, to jump into the furball? And when they get slaughtered in it? It will end up being a Hangar queen for many. Most of all if theres no drones with it.

Are you insane? The ords capability of one B29 is huge. Not to mention the high alt speed of the damn thing. Anyone who would use this for low alt stuff in the MA , should lose perks.
If this thing is ever introduced it should be perked heavily.

Bronk

[AirFlyer]

Originally posted by Rino
The Baka bomb wasn't an easy kill, it's Betty launch platform was.  The one
in the Smithsonian is actually jet powered compressor>, although most were rockets.

I also beleive it was Ohka for Cherry Blossom

Yep and Baku means Idiot in Japanese if I remember correctly, something U.S. pilots nicknamed it, which was very common.

Also if you want a real bomber get the Japanese G10N(Mount Fuji). It carryed 20,000Kg's (roughly 44,200 Ibs.) in bombs and had 6 2,500 HP engines.

To bad it never got constructed before the war's end.

[E25280]

I personally don't think it will ever happen due to the difficulty of modeling the convergence computer on the remote turrets.  Without it, the remote turrets would be almost useless.

I would be more than happy to be wrong, though.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Bronk
Are you insane? The ords capability of one B29 is huge. Not to mention the high alt speed of the damn thing. Anyone who would use this for low alt stuff in the MA , should lose perks.
If this thing is ever introduced it should be perked heavily.

Bronk

                             In order, 1, No I'm not insane, "tho there are some who would disagree". 2, The bomb load of a single B-29 was what? max 20,000 lbs? A B-24 x 3 = 24,000 lbs in bombs. A B-17 x 3 = 18,000 lbs of bombs. This is stuff I learned in 1'st grade.

                          A 17 or 24 coming in low to an airfield looks like a crippled old Goose in need of Jenny Craig. A 29 will look like a 99 yo California condor flying with a load in his pants. How long do you think it would last against all those fighters? The biggest danger would be everyone trying to shoot it down.

                       3 B-24s = 24,000 lbs. 3 B-17s = 18,000lbs, 1 B-29 = 20,000 lbs. Or is my math wrong?

                     Boy, God forbid the Bomber sticks get something.

[Denholm]

Do you have any idea how many cries for nukes there will be when there is even a slight hint of the B29 coming to AH?